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COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM MIDDLESBROUGH COUNTY COURT
(HIS HONOUR JUDGE TAYLOR)
Strand London WC2 Tuesday, 23rd October 2001 |
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B e f o r e :
LORD JUSTICE JONATHAN PARKER
-and-
MR JUSTICE BODEY
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JOHN ROBERT CLIFFORD | Appellant | |
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(1) ROBERT WILLIAM GRIMLEY | ||
(2) ELIZABETH HANNAH GRIMLEY | Defendants |
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MR R MERRITT (instructed by Messrs Meikles, County Durham DL16 7SE) appeared on behalf of the Respondent
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"... I decided I could not be satisfied as to the terms or creation of promissory occupation because I cannot be satisfied when permission was given or the terms of it." [Emphasis added].
"... the parties especially the losing party should be left in no doubt why they have won or lost."
"It is against all of that background that I have been forced to come to the view that there is no licence agreement as asserted, no permission sought by the Grimleys. They have occupied that land for at least, in my view, 45 years but more likely 50 years or even many more without permission. In those circumstances they have obtained possessory title to the land in question."
"... satisfied on balance that the land was occupied by the Grimleys with lofts prior to Mr Marshall having his title..."
- and continued:
"... I cannot conceive why the Grimleys would have then gone on to an arrangement of promissory occupation and paying rent, if they had not been challenged at the outset."
"... I never had a discussion about promissory occupation. I never paid a penny over."
"... it really does not matter whether he thinks it is credible or not. It is a question of whether I believe him. I will tell you at the end of the case whether I do or I do not."
"... the extent of the duty, or rather the reach of what is required to fulfil it, depends on the subject matter..."