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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Appeal (Civil Division) Decisions >> L-A (Children), Re [2009] EWCA Civ 822 (14 July 2009) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2009/822.html Cite as: [2010] 1 FLR 80, [2009] EWCA Civ 822, [2009] Fam Law 1025 |
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COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE
FAMILY DIVISION, PRINCIPAL REGISTRY
(HIS HONOUR JUDGE SLEEMAN)
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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LORD JUSTICE MAURICE KAY
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IN THE MATTER OF L-A (Children) |
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Ms F Judd QC and Ms M Grundy (instructed by Wilsons Solicitors) appeared on behalf of the First Respondent, the mother.
Ms J Moseley (instructed by Penmans Solicitors) appeared on behalf of the Third to Eighth Respondents, the children, by their Children's Guardian .
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Lord Justice Thorpe:
"10. Even more stark is the failure to acknowledge the need to consider on the alleged facts of this case whether:
a) there is an imminent risk of really serious harm i.e. whether the risk to ML's safety demands immediate separation (per Thorpe LJ in Re H (a child) (Interim Care Order) [2003] 1FCR 350); and
b) if not, the question whether mother is able to provide good enough long term care should be a matter for the Court to decide at a final hearing not to be litigated at an interim hearing which effectively pre judges the full and profound trial of the Local Authority's case and the parents' response to the same thereby usurping or substituting for the function of the final hearing or issues resolution processes: Re G (minors) (Interim Care Order) [1993] 2 FLR 839 at 845 CA and Re H (Supra) at paragraph 38."
"16. The second is the nature and extent of the risk. The fact that the Local Authority and/or the children's guardian do not have knowledge of matters either generally or even because of an alleged course of conduct including the deception of a parent does not change the actual risk that a child faces it merely changes their perception or assessment of that risk. If in fact the perception of risk could have been greater had the Local Authority or the children's guardian known of the parents alleged covert meetings, then the question still arises as to whether the consequences of that risk have been adequately protected against or can be so as to ameliorate the same. If so, there will not be an imminent risk of really serious harm because of the new information but rather a risk of harm that may be really serious but which has not yet occurred and may not do so within the proceedings if adequate arrangements can be put into place."
"…at an interim stage the removal of children from their parents is not to be sanctioned unless the child's safety requires interim protection."
"155. Mr Justice Ryder in Re L, reported at [2008] 1 FLR 575 puts down a marker. He says, in my brutally short summary, that there should be an imminent risk of really serious harm … and urgent reason to remove …
"156. That, argues the local authority and the Child(ren)'s guardian sets the bar too high.
"157. For my part I quite accept that it might be argued that the comments of Ryder J might more properly be the test for an Emergency Protection Order. But that is the law which binds this court.
"158. First I find that I am bound by that decision and that I have not been persuaded that there is an imminent risk of harm ….
"160. I cannot say that the position in which I find myself is a happy one. I have no enthusiasm at all for leaving the children where they are, but I am not able to override the decision of Ryder J -- that would be the responsibility of the Court of Appeal."
Lord Justice Maurice Kay:
Order: Appeal allowed