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THOMAS SIM BEEDIE, R v. [1997] EWCA Crim 714 (11th March, 1997)
No.
9603295 X3
IN
THE COURT OF APPEAL
CRIMINAL
DIVISION
Royal
Courts of Justice
The
Strand
London
WC2
Tuesday
11th March 1997
B
E F O R E :
THE
VICE PRESIDENT
(LORD
JUSTICE ROSE)
MR
JUSTICE DYSON
and
MR
JUSTICE TIMOTHY WALKER
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THOMAS
SIM BEEDIE
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R SMITH QC (13/14.2.97) & MR GATESHILL
appeared on behalf of the Appellant
MR
K KEEN QC (13/14.2.97) & MR TREMBERG
appeared on behalf of the Crown
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JUDGMENT
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Crown
Copyright
Tuesday
11th March 1997
JUDGMENT
THE
VICE PRESIDENT: At Sheffield Crown Court, on 19th April 1996, the appellant
pleaded guilty to manslaughter, and on 22nd April was sentenced to 18 months'
imprisonment suspended for two years by Clarke J. He appeals against
conviction by virtue of a certificate of the trial judge.
On 14th June 1994 the appellant had pleaded guilty in the Magistrates
Court to an offence contrary to section 33 of the Health and Safety at Work Act
1974, arising from a breach of duty imposed by section 3(2) of that Act. The
question raised by this appeal is whether the judge was right in rejecting the
appellant's plea of autrefois convict and in refusing to stay the proceedings
for manslaughter.
The relevant facts are that on 29th November 1993 Tracy Murphy, a young
woman of 19, died of carbon monoxide poisoning caused by the use of a defective
gas fire in her bedsit at 56 Pearson Park, Kingston Upon Hull. The appellant
was the landlord, and had a duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974
to ensure that the appliance was maintained and repaired. The fire had been
installed prior to 1983 when the appellant bought the house. The chimney was
blocked with debris which had accumulated over the years. Routine servicing of
the fire and flue would have revealed the fatal defects.
Miss Murphy's body was discovered on 30th November 1993. Representatives
of the police and British Gas attended. On 1st December representatives of
British Gas, the Health and Safety Executive and Hull City Council attended the
house, together with the appellant. On 3rd December the appellant was
interviewed under caution by the Council's environmental health officer in the
presence of representatives of the Health and Safety Executive. During the
first week of December, PC Freer of Humberside Police was instructed to carry
out an investigation as Coroner's Officer, and did so. In December 1993 an
inquest into Miss Murphy's death was adjourned. On 23rd March 1994 the
appellant was interviewed for a second time by the local authority.
The Health and Safety Executive prosecuted the appellant under section 33
of the 1974 Act in that, being a self-employed person, he did not conduct his
undertaking as a landlord so as to ensure, so far as was reasonably
practicable, Tracy Murphy's health and safety, by maintaining the fire and flue
in good repair and proper working order. On 14th June the appellant pleaded
guilty before the Magistrates. He was fined £1,500 and ordered to pay
£418 costs. Proceedings were also taken by the City Council against the
appellant as manager of the premises under section 369 of the Housing Act 1985,
and regulations 7 and 8 of the Housing (Management of Houses in Multiple
Housing Occupation) Regulations 1990, in relation to the state of a number of
other gas installations in the same premises. The allegation was in each case
that the appellant failed to ensure that the installations were maintained in
repair and in proper working order. No evidence was offered in relation to
Miss Murphy's bedsit because the allegation was the same as that in relation to
the prosecution by the Health and Safety Executive. On 6th July 1994 the
appellant pleaded guilty before the Justices to all charges and was granted a
conditional discharge and ordered to pay £1,000 costs. Clarke J concluded
that, at this stage, following the two separate prosecutions before the
Justices, the defendant reasonably thought that it was the end of the matter in
relation to any prosecution.
The inquest, having previously been adjourned, was resumed on 25th August
1994. The Coroner, following a discussion with the appellant's solicitor, Mr
Forde, required the appellant to give evidence, otherwise he would be in
contempt. The Coroner's view was that, as the appellant had already been
prosecuted, there was no prejudice to him because there was no realistic
prospect of a prosecution for manslaughter in the event of a verdict of
unlawful killing at the inquest. Clarke J concluded that this was the only
inference which could be drawn from the Coroner's failure to give the appellant
a warning under Rule 22 of the Coroners Rules that he was not obliged to answer
any question tending to incriminate him, and that he could refuse to answer
such a question. That conclusion, as the judge found, was also consistent with
the evidence of Mr Forde about his discussion with the Coroner, which the judge
accepted. The cross-examination of the appellant on behalf of Miss Murphy's
family was designed to elicit answers which would support a case both of
breach of duty and of unlawful killing. The Coroner summed up the case to the
jury impeccably. They returned a verdict of unlawful killing.
On 6th September 1994 the police, for the first time, notified the Crown
Prosecution Service about the case. They obtained a transcript of the inquest
proceedings. On 25th March 1995 the appellant attended for interview by the
police. He declined to comment. He was charged with manslaughter.
At the trial Mr Robert Smith QC, then as now appearing for the defendant,
applied to stay the indictment relying on
Connelly
v. DPP
[1964] AC 1254. The judge rejected that submission. Thereupon the appellant
pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced as we indicated at the outset.
The first and second grounds of appeal assert that the judge erred in law
in rejecting the plea of autrefois convict, and the judge's analysis of the
speeches in
Connelly
v. DPP
led him to conclude, wrongly, that that plea could only be successful if the
legal characteristics of both offences were the same, whereas it was sufficient
for the plea to succeed for the appellant to show that the evidence necessary
to support the indictment for manslaughter, or the facts constituting
manslaughter, would have been sufficient to procure a conviction under the
Health and Safety at Work Act. Mr Smith's first submission to this Court,
however, was unenthusiastic in relation to these grounds. His second
submission in support of ground 3 was advanced with much more vigour: the
judge had a discretion to stay the proceedings because to proceed with them
would offend the general rule that no man should be punished twice for an
offence arising out of the same, or substantially the same, set of facts, and
to do so would offend the established principle that a defendant is not to be
tried again on the same facts for more serious offences on an ascending scale
of gravity. Mr Smith's third submission was that the judge wrongly exercised
his discretion in failing to identify special circumstances justifying further
proceedings, in carrying out an inappropriate balancing exercise, in seeking to
distinguish
Connelly
on the ground that the relevant indictment rule (now Rule 9 of the Indictment
Rules 1971) applied in
Connelly
but not to the instant proceedings, and in concluding that the trial process
itself was capable of curing any risk of oppression or prejudice.
In relation to his first submission, Mr Smith was inclined to concede, on
reflection, that Clarke's J analysis of the speeches in
Connelly
v. DPP
was correct, namely, that the majority of the House of Lords identified a
narrow principle of autrefois, applicable only where the same offence is
alleged in the second indictment. In our judgment this concession was rightly
made. At 1339 Lord Devlin said, "For the doctrine to apply it must be the same
offence both in fact and in law", and he went on at 1340, having rejected the
idea that an offence may be substantially, rather than precisely, the same as
another in its legal characteristics, to reject the suggestion that autrefois
applies in favour of an accused who has been prosecuted on substantially the
same facts. Lord Pearce, at 1368, agreed with the opinion of Lord Devlin.
Lord Reid, at 1295, said:
".....many
generations of judges have seen nothing unfair in holding that the plea of
autrefois acquit must be given a limited scope... I cannot disregard the fact
that with certain exceptions it has been held proper in a very large number of
cases to try a man a second time on the same criminal conduct where the offence
charged is different from that charged at the first trial."
It follows that we are unable to accept the view of the Editors of Archbold
expressed in earlier editions, and in paragraph 4-117 of the 1997 Edition, that
Lord Morris's speech and, in particular, his third and fourth principles
expressed at page 1305 (that the principle of autrefois applies to offences
which are the same, or substantially the same, and an appropriate test is
whether the evidence to support the second indictment or the facts constituting
the second offence would have been sufficient to procure a conviction on the
first indictment) represents the ratio of the House's decision. Clarke's J
analysis was correct. The majority of their lordships in
Connelly
defined autrefois in the narrow way which we have described, that is when the
second indictment charges the same offence as the first and said that judicial
discretion should be exercised in other appropriate cases. Lord Morris and
Lord Hodson took the view that no such discretion existed.
We turn to Mr Smith's second submission in relation to the nature of a
judge's discretion. From the speeches in
Connelly
he identified two principles wider than the narrow principle of autrefois.
First, that no man should be punished twice for an offence arising out of the
same, or substantially the same, set of facts. He relied on the speech of Lord
Devlin at 1347 where he referred to the inherent jurisdiction to declare that
the prosecution must "as a general rule join in the same indictment" charges
founded on the same facts by staying a second indictment if satisfied that its
subject matter ought to have been included in the first. A similar passage
appears in his speech at 1359-60 where he adds this:
"But
a second trial on the same or similar facts is not always necessarily
oppressive, and there may in a particular case be special circumstances which
make it just and convenient in that case. The judge must then, in all the
circumstances of the particular case, exercise his discretion as to whether or
not he applies the general rule."
At
1364 Lord Pearce referred to the narrow view of autrefois as not comprehending:
".....the
whole of the power on which the court acts in considering whether a second
trial can properly follow an acquittal or conviction. A man ought not to be
tried for a second offence which is manifestly inconsistent
on
the facts
with either a previous conviction or a previous acquittal... the courts should
apply to such cases an avowed judicial discretion....."
At
1296 Lord Reid said:
".....the
general rule must be that the prosecutor should combine in one indictment all
the charges he intends to prefer. ...there must always be a residual discretion
to prevent anything which savours of abuse of process."
Mr Smith also referred to
R.
v. Riebold
[1967] 1 WLR 674, where Barry J, having analysed the speeches in
Connelly,
concluded that he must apply the rules laid down by Lord Devlin and approved by
Lord Pearce and Lord Reid in relation to discretion. Having cited the passage
in Lord Devlin's speech at 1359-60, to which reference has already been made,
Barry J, who approached the application before him as one by the prosecution
for leave to proceed rather than one by the defence for a stay, said, at 677F:
"I
feel that I am bound to apply this general rule to the facts of the present
case and to ask myself whether there are here any exceptional circumstances
which would make it not oppressive to grant the prosecution leave to
proceed....."
The
second wider principle identified by Mr Smith was that there should be no
sequential trials for offences on an ascending scale of gravity. He relied on
the approval of
R.
v. Elrington
[1861] 1 B & S 688, per Cockburn CJ at 696 in
Connelly.
Cockburn CJ said:
".....whether
a party accused of a minor offence is acquitted or convicted, he shall not be
charged again on the same facts in a more aggravated form."
This
was approved by Lord Hodson at 1332, Lord Devlin at 1357-8 and Lord Pearce at
1367.
For the Crown, Mr Keen QC accepted before us that a judge has the
discretion identified by Lord Devlin and exercised by Barry J in
Riebold.
Further, he did not seek to suggest that the
Elrington
principle is other than good law.
It will be apparent that the principal focus of the appeal before this
Court has been on the way in which Clarke J exercised the discretion which it
is common ground he had.
Mr Smith's first attack was based on the judge's failure, as he submitted,
to identify any circumstances sufficiently special to justify departure from
the general rule enunciated by Lord Devlin. Had he followed the example of
Barry J, he would have been bound to conclude that there were no special
circumstances because there were no new facts. At page 36G of the transcript
of his ruling Clarke J said this:
".....proceedings
should be stayed unless the prosecution persuades the Court that there are good
reasons for not doing so. Mr Keen submits in the exercise of my discretion I
should take account of all the circumstances of the case. As already stated I
accept that submission. It is consistent with the approach of Lord Devlin.
In
my judgment I should take account of all the relevant circumstances. Those
include not only the interests of the defendant, important though they are, but
also the wider public interest. Although, as already stated, all relevant
charges should have been brought and determined at the same time, there was
here more than one prosecuting authority because both the CPS and the Health
and Safety Executive are by statute autonomous prosecuting authorities...
Although
some blame attaches to the police none attaches to the CPS and none attaches to
the Health and Safety Executive because they could not have prosecuted for
manslaughter. On the other hand, I entirely accept that the fact that there
was no prosecution for manslaughter was in no way caused by anything done or
not done by the defendant...
The
question is whether there would be manifest unfairness or prejudice to the
defendant if this prosecution is allowed to proceed."
At
39D he went on:
".....it
appears to me the exercise of a discretion of this kind is essentially one of
balance. In principle the public interest requires, if a defendant is guilty
of manslaughter because of his gross negligence, that fact should be reflected
in the verdict of a jury or by a plea of guilty in the context of criminal
proceedings."
At
40A he went on:
".....it
appears to me that it is in the public interest that the matter should be tried
and, if necessary, determined by a jury, in the context of an indictment for
manslaughter. It is of the utmost importance that a tragedy like this should
never happen again, and that landlords should appreciate the risk they run if
they are guilty of gross negligence. I also take account of the legitimate
concerns of the family of the deceased, although that is only one factor in the
context of a decision where the general public interest lies.
...I
am unable to accept that [to impose a further penalty] that would be unfair on
the facts of this case because no Court has considered whether the defendant
was guilty of gross negligence causing death. Moreover, no Court has
considered the appropriate penalty in respect of such gross negligence if it is
established."
At
41E he concluded:
".....it
would not in all the circumstances of this case, be manifestly unfair or
prejudicial to the defendant if this indictment is allowed to continue,....."
Mr Smith submitted that the reasons identified by the judge for not
granting a stay, namely public interest in a prosecution for manslaughter and
concern on the part of the family of the deceased, may well have been good
reasons (as the judge himself said) but they were not "special circumstances".
Special circumstances, submitted Mr Smith, have to be special to the case under
consideration, that is something in the facts or other relevant matter taking
the case outside the general rule. Whenever any death has been caused by gross
negligence there is a public interest in a prosecution for manslaughter and
understandable concern on the part of the deceased's family. In any event, in
the light of the two earlier prosecutions before the Justices, the wider
principle of
Elrington
supports the granting of a stay: in
R.
v. Forest of Dean Justices ex parte
Farley
[1990] RTR 228, at 239, Neill LJ referred to the "almost invariable rule that
where a person is tried on a lesser offence he is not to be tried again on the
same facts for a more serious offence". The prosecution for manslaughter gave
rise to a re-hearing of the same, or substantially the same, charge on the same
facts aggravated by gross negligence and death. Death had been opened as part
of both the earlier prosecutions, and it was oppressive for the defendant to
face a second trial for a more aggravated form of the same offence (see
R.
v. Moxon-Tritsch
[1988] CrimLR 46). Rule 26 (1) of the Coroners Rules imposes a duty on the
police to alert the Coroner if there is a possible prosecution for
manslaughter. The City Council's press release in 1994 showed that the
prosecution of the appellant for the statutory offences was regarded as high
profile and was intended to "have a deterrent effect on the city's landlords to
prevent any further tragic accidents involving gas appliances in private rented
houses". The Health and Safety Executive were well aware of the risk of
double jeopardy, and a conscious decision was made about the nature of the
charges to be pursued in the light of this principle. The only purpose to be
achieved by a manslaughter prosecution was the imposition of a further penalty
and the heaping of condemnation on the defendant. The first indication of a
charge of manslaughter was given six months after the CPS had obtained a
transcript of the inquest, at which the appellant had answered questions in the
belief that he was not to be further prosecuted.
Mr Smith submitted that the judge, having failed to identify special
circumstances, should not have sought to carry out the balancing exercise to
which he referred. The position was quite different from that where an
application is made for a stay because the defendant shows that he cannot have
a fair trial (see
Attorney-General's
Reference (No 1. of 1990)
(1992) 95 Cr.App.R. 296).
Accordingly, the judge's approach being flawed in these two respects, Mr
Smith submitted that this Court should substitute its own exercise of
discretion and, there being no special circumstances, the general rule in
favour of a stay should prevail.
Mr Smith further submitted that the judge fell into error in ruling that
the present case was distinguishable from
Connelly
on the basis that Rule 3 (now 9) of the Indictment Rules applied in that case,
but not in the present, because the Health and Safety Executive is an
autonomous prosecuting body which could not have brought a charge of
manslaughter, and the CPS could not have brought a charge under the 1974 Health
and Safety at Work Act. But this conclusion was inconsistent with the judge's
earlier finding that, if there had been proper liaison between police, CPS and
the Health and Safety Executive, the CPS would probably at the outset have
reached a conclusion that a prosecution for manslaughter was appropriate. As
the Health and Safety at Work Act offences are triable either way, the
appellant could have been committed for trial in relation to both matters and
both joined in accordance with the Indictment Rules, thereby giving effect to
Lord Devlin's words at 1353:
".....it
is absolutely necessary that issues of fact that are substantially the same
should, whenever practicable, be tried by the same tribunal and at the same
time."
Mr Smith's final submission was that the judge was wrong to conclude that
the trial process was, in itself, capable of curing any risk of oppression or
prejudice if evidence of the appellant's summary convictions and his admissions
in evidence at the inquest were excluded from the jury's consideration under
section 78 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. This was to ignore
the advantage to the prosecution of having a transcript of the appellant's
evidence at the inquest on which cross-examination of him could be based. In
any event, consideration of whether or not the appellant could have a fair
trial, which would have been material to an application to stay for abuse of
process because of delay, was inappropriate. A stay on such a ground is an
exceptional course (see
Attorney-General's
Reference (No. 1 of 1990)
at 303) and the onus is on the defence to show that, on the balance of
probabilities, no fair trial can be held; whereas the general rule presently
under consideration is that there should be a stay, and it is for the
prosecution to show that, for special circumstances, there should not be.
Mr Keen submitted that the judge's reference to "good reasons" should be
read not in isolation, but in the context of the rest of his ruling, wherein he
carefully considered
Connelly
and recognised the relevant principles. He quoted extensively from the speech
of Lord Devlin, including his reference to "special circumstances". The judge
probably used the expression "good reasons" because he had in mind the
reasoning behind Lord Devlin's general rule, as set out at 1347 in his speech,
namely, that the discretion was to prevent unfairness to the accused and
injustice arising if the prosecutor spread his case over several indictments
and the need for a controlling power. If there is no unfairness or prejudice,
this can be a special circumstance constituting an exception to the general
rule. Mr Keen distinguished
R.
v. Forest of Dean Justices
because the burden there was placed on the defendant by reason of the earlier
prosecution, and
R.
v. Riebold
because in that case there was an attempt by the prosecution, in seeking to
pursue substantive counts when a conviction for conspiracy had been quashed, to
re-try an issue on which they had already lost. Mr Keen did not seek to say
that the fact that the Health and Safety Executive are an autonomous
prosecuting authority gave rise to any special circumstance; for he accepted
that manslaughter and the 1974 Act offences could have been joined in the same
indictment. The evidence given by the appellant at the inquest added nothing
to the admissions made in interview by the appellant. Had the prosecution for
manslaughter been brought at the same time the appellant could have been
convicted of that offence and the statutory offences, which were not merely
lesser alternatives. He did, however, concede that in reality a judge would
probably direct a jury to consider the manslaughter first before turning to the
statutory offences and would not take a verdict on the statutory offences if
there were a verdict of guilty of manslaughter. The judge was entitled to look
at the public interest, and the absence of any prejudice or unfairness, in
deciding whether it was just and convenient for the matter to be tried. He
conceded, however, that the judge was wrong to approach the matter as a
balancing exercise: it is for the prosecution to discharge the burden. He
accepted that he may have unwittingly misled the judge by arguing that the
burden was on the defendant and that the judge should consider all the
circumstances. This error was contributed to because, in Archbold, the
authorities were considered under the general heading of abuse of process.
In our judgment, Mr Smith's submissions in relation to the judge's
exercise of discretion are all well-founded. Although the judge carefully and,
in our judgment, accurately analysed the effect of the speeches in
Connelly
(which, if we may say so, is no mean feat), in applying those principles to the
exercise of his discretion he fell into error. First, he failed to consider
whether there were special circumstances, and in our judgment there were none.
The public interest in a prosecution for manslaughter, and the understandable
concerns of the victim's family, were, no doubt, good reasons for allowing the
prosecution to proceed. They did not, however, give rise to special
circumstances. At 1360 in
Connelly
Lord Devlin, without attempting a comprehensive definition, gave, as examples
of a special circumstance, where a judge would have ordered separate trials if
the offences in the second indictment had been included in the first and where
the prosecution, instead of joining all possible charges in one indictment,
preferred two or more indictments, and the defence accepted this without
complaint. Nothing remotely akin to those situations arose in the present
case, in which we can see no special circumstances of any kind. Secondly, he
carried out a balancing exercise when this was inappropriate; although it has
to be said that prosecuting counsel's submissions appear to have misled him in
this respect. Thirdly, he sought to distinguish
Connelly
on the basis of the Indictment Rules, when no such distinction is to be found.
Fourthly, he took into account, inappropriately, the question of whether there
could be a fair trial. Again it appears that he was not greatly assisted by
the submissions of counsel for the Crown.
The judge having, as it seems to us, exercised his discretion on a flawed
basis, it is open to this Court to exercise its discretion. In our judgment
there being, as we have indicated, no special circumstances in the present
case, it is one in which the general rule should have prevailed. A stay should
have been ordered because the manslaughter allegation was based on
substantially the same facts as the earlier summary prosecutions, and gave rise
to a prosecution for an offence of greater gravity, no new facts having
occurred, in breach of the
Elrington
principle. Although we differ from the judge as to the way in which he
exercised his discretion, it should be noted that, as he himself recognised in
granting a certificate to appeal, he faced a very unusual and difficult task.
He had to make a decision in the light of intense public interest in the
locality, guidance from the House of Lords which has been widely misunderstood
by practitioners for over 30 years, and submissions from Counsel which had not
been honed before him to the precision which they achieved before this Court.
We add this. We can see no reason why, prior to institution of the
summary proceedings, the CPS should not have been alerted by the police, the
Health and Safety Executive, or the Local Authority to the enquiry which was
being undertaken into the circumstances leading to the death of this
unfortunate young woman. Had this been done, it should have been possible for
a sensible joint decision to be reached as to what charges could, and should,
have been properly brought against the appellant, and no doubt manslaughter
would have been among them. We understand that liaison between the separate
prosecuting authorities in the North East has now improved so that the history
of the present prosecution should not be repeated in other cases. We venture
to express the hope and expectation that a like degree of liaison already
exists in other parts of the country.
For the reasons given, the appeal is allowed and the appellant's
conviction, which depended on his plea following the judge's ruling, quashed.
MR
GATESHILL: My Lord, there are two consequential orders sought by the
appellant. He has paid legal aid contributions in a total sum of £6,430.
I would seek an order that those contributions be returned to him. Secondly, I
would seek a defendant's costs order, the sum claimed is the relatively modest
one of £525. I do not know if your Lordship can deal with that today.
LORD
JUSTICE ROSE: I can deal with it, but not as at presently constituted. I
shall need two other judges to deal with it, so I am going to rise for a moment
or two to reconstitute, and then we will be in a position to deal with it.
Court
rose for a short time to reconstitute
No.
9603295 X3
IN
THE COURT OF APPEAL
CRIMINAL
DIVISION
Royal
Courts of Justice
The
Strand
London
WC2
Tuesday
11th March 1997
B
E F O R E :
THE
VICE PRESIDENT
(LORD
JUSTICE ROSE
)
MR
JUSTICE OWEN
and
MR
JUSTICE MORLAND
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SIM BEEDIE
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MR
K KEEN QC (13/14.2.97) & MR TREMBERG
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PROCEEDINGS
LORD
JUSTICE ROSE: Mr Gateshill, you seek repayment of the appellant's legal aid
contribution of £6,430, and a defendant's costs order in the sum of
£525?
MR
GATESHILL: Yes, please, my Lord.
LORD
JUSTICE ROSE: We shall grant that.
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