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COURT OF APPEAL (CRIMINAL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM KINGSTON UPON THAMES
CROWN COURT (BINNING HHJ)
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
MR JUSTICE CURTIS
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MR JUSTICE GAGE
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REGINA |
Respondent |
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HUSNU SARACOGLU |
Appellant |
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Mr John Black QC and Miss Jacqueline Hall (instructed by Wood Green Trials Unit) for the respondent
Hearing date : 26 June 2003
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Crown Copyright ©
Lord Justice Potter:
Introduction
The Facts
The Defence
The Grounds of Appeal
The Course of the Proceedings and the Question of Representation
"When Mr McGrail on behalf of Mr Kahya put specifically that it was Kiprit, that does not emanate, and has not so far in the trial, and as I understand it will not, emanate from Mr Saracoglu."
"Well it is important, because I do not want anyone complaining later on, after the trial is over "that I wish I had had different solicitors, because I did not say something, or because I would have said it, if I had had different solicitors." I am particularly sensitive about it because on 28 August, I know both of them applied to change solicitors, but there was no suggestion at that stage of a conflict. But whilst nothing has been put specifically on each of your behalves, I think all I can do in the circumstances is invite you both to keep a careful eye on the situation, because I want to avoid a situation whereby people might complain after the event that they wished they had had totally independent legal advice. I am not suggesting that either of you are not giving independent legal advice, but they are both instructing the same firm of solicitors when all is said and done.
So in the light of what you have told me all I will invite you to do, which I am sure you would do anyway, is to keep an eye on the situation."
The Evidence on the Appeal
Conclusions