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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales High Court (Family Division) Decisions >> LAB v KB (Abduction: Brussels II Revised) [2009] EWHC 2243 (Fam) (21 August 2009) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2009/2243.html Cite as: [2010] 2 FLR 1664, [2009] EWHC 2243 (Fam), [2010] Fam Law 933 |
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FAMILY DIVISION
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MR. H. SETRIGHT Q.C. and MR. D. WILLIAMS (instructed by Reynolds Porter Chamberlain) appeared on behalf of the Respondent.
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MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD:
THE PROCEEDINGS
BACKGROUND
THE SPANISH PROCEEDINGS
"In the report made by the psychologist of Torremolinos courts (sic) after interviewing the parents and children, considered especially relevant because of its impartiality, exhaustivity (sic) and objectivity and because its take (sic) into account children's wish, it is recommended to grant care and custody order to the mother."
As is also clear from that judgment, the court, in hearing all of the oral evidence and considering the written material, paid considerable regard to the psychologist. The psychologist's interviews with the children were, as they note in their judgment (see pages C6-8 of the bundle), carried out as the psychologist deemed to be appropriate, with the minors and with their parents. They regarded the psychologist's evidence as "particularly relevant because of its impartiality, thoroughness and objectivity, and because it states the wishes and desires of the minors, is considered of interest, amongst other matters, to the resolution of the issues with which we are concerned." That judgment went on to make certain observations about the father's physical care of the children, the way in which (as they found) the father had been controlling and not interested in encouraging communication between the children and the mother, and that he had used the minors as a means of pressurising the mother to return to him. Those findings were based, as I understand the judgment, particularly on the analysis of the psychologist. There was evidence, and indeed findings, to the effect that once he realised the reconciliation with the mother was not going to go ahead, he decided not to cooperate with her. He did not encourage contact and "there is evidence that he had been speaking ill of the mother and blaming her for the situation and separation". They went on to recite other aspects of the psychologist's report to the effect that there is a strong emotional link between the mother and the children, as to her methods of raising them based on affection, communication and encouragement of independence, etc. They also noted the expressed wishes of the children. In respect of T it was suggested that she had not fully adapted to life in England and she was sad, and she can "be seen to be very worried about the family situation". At that time J was clearly stating that his desire was to live in Spain with his mother. I do not set out in elaborate detail their findings on this material. Suffice it to say that in summary, as appears from the judgment C8, they found, consistent with the evidence of the psychologist, and on an examination of all of the material, that the position was indeed as the psychologist had reported, and for those reasons (and others which I need not recite) they transferred the residence of the children to their mother.
(i) criticisms of the psychologist's report and its relaying through the allegedly tainted mechanism of the mother as translator of the children's wishes and feelings, and
(ii) the father's alleged wholesale failure to cooperate (which he denied) with contact arrangements so that the mother could see the children regularly and oft whilst they were in England.
I do not pretend to here cover the full range of the detailed criticisms of the judgment, but have isolated the two principal objections to it.
(i) it is difficult for a Court of Appeal to gainsay the judgment of a lower court who saw the witnesses and where there are no proven and objective grounds showing error by the court below;
(ii) the lower court also had the full advantage of the detailed psychologist's report;
(iii) that the minors' interests were considered as "essential". We would, in this context, say that their welfare was paramount; and
(iv) that the lower court had evidence of the wishes and feelings of the children but that those wishes and feelings were not determinative but an important matter to be taken into account.
"The evidence in question clearly revealed the minors' fervent wish to live in Spain with their mother with whom they have a greater emotional tie than with the father. This despite the time that has elapsed since they were separated from their mother by the father who has in no way facilitated mother/child contact."
Later, of the psychologist's report they say:
"Despite the objections which the appellant formulates in respect of the expert evidence furnished by the psychologist registered at the Family Court, there is no doubt that both procedural law as well as case law subjects such an evidential measure to the rules and fair criticism …" (sic)
Finally they say this:
"The objections formulated by the appellant cannot be taken into account because there is neither any evidence which invalidates the contents of the conclusions reached by the expert nor any indication that the children's mother, on interpreting for her daughter, by her express wishes [that means T's express wishes] has stated any falsehoods or exerted pressure of any kind on the child who was able to express herself completely freely, and if she had any reservations these were not due to the presence of her mother as translator but more of a defence mechanism of the minor since it causes T anxiety to choose between her parents. This is no doubt due to the family and personal situation experienced by the minor because of the breakdown of her parents' relationship. The evidence in question is of undoubted evidential value and possesses full guarantees of objectivity …" (see pages C35/36 of the bundle).
It is suggested also, from passages which follow later at page C36, that the children may well have been speaking Spanish although, as I shall later record, the children now cast some doubt on this proposition.
ENGLISH PROCEEDINGS
OTHER PROCEEDINGS
THE REGULATION
"The hearing of the child plays an important role in the application of this regulation, although this instrument is not intended to modify normal procedures applicable."
Miss Meyer says that the children's voice should be heard throughout these proceedings, including, crucially here, the recognition and, separately from that, the enforcement stage if the latter becomes relevant. It is thus necessary to order, she says, a CAFCASS report with specific reference, but not exclusive reference, to the wishes and feelings of the children now, two years having passed since the making of the operative residence order in Spain before I refuse the appeal, if indeed I do refuse it, and/or if I refuse it in relation to registration, before ordering enforcement.
"Grounds of non-recognition for judgments relating to parental responsibility. A judgment relating to parental responsibility shall not be recognised: (a) if such recognition is manifestly contrary to the public policy of the Member State in which recognition is sought taking into account the best interests of the child; (b) if it was given, except in cases of urgency, without the child having been given an opportunity to be heard, in violation of fundamental principles of procedures of the Member State in which recognition is sought; (e) if it is irreconcilable with a later judgment relating to parental responsibility given in the Member State in which recognition is sought; (f) if it is irreconcilable with a later judgment relating to parental responsibility given in another Member State … provided that the later judgment fulfils the conditions necessary for its recognition in the Member State in which recognition is sought."
"(1) A judgment on the exercise of parental responsibility in respect of a child given in a Member State which is enforceable in that Member State and has been served shall be enforced in another Member State when, on the application of any interested party, it has been declared enforceable.
(2) However, in the United Kingdom such a judgment shall be enforced in England and Wales, in Scotland or in Northern Ireland only when, on the application of any interested party, it has been registered for enforcement in that part of the United Kingdom."
"(1) The court applied to shall give its decision without delay. Neither the person against whom enforcement is sought nor the child shall, at this stage of the proceedings, be entitled to make any submissions on the application.
"(2) The application may be refused only for one of the reasons specified in Arts 22, 23 and 24.
"(3) Under no circumstance may a judgment be reviewed as to its substance."
This latter point repeats the injunction contained in Art 26 which was relevant to the consideration of recognition. Thus, it appears from this last passage of Art 31 that I must consider this issue afresh in the sense of not seeking to review substance of the foreign court's judgment and avoiding that trap.
"The enforcement procedure is governed by the law of the Member State of enforcement.
(2) Any judgment delivered by a court of another Member State and declared to be enforceable in accordance with Section 2 or certified in accordance with Art 41(1) or Art 42(1) shall be enforced in the Member State of enforcement in the same conditions as if it had been delivered in that Member State. In particular, a judgment which has been certified according to Art 41(1) or 42(1) cannot be enforced if it is irreconcilable with a subsequent enforceable judgment."
That too is a repetition of a consideration which is relevant to the issue of recognition.
WHAT RELIEF IS SOUGHT BY THE FATHER IN THE CONCLUDING PASSAGE OF MISS MEYER'S SKELETON ARGUMENT?
"The father therefore seeks: (1) adjournment of the appeal/enforcement process pending the preparation of the report directed to the welfare implications of immediate enforcement and the current wishes and feelings of the children and pending a decision in the Spanish court on the issue of jurisdiction/Art 15 transfer. Alternatively, (2) an order for non-recognition of the order of 30th July 2007. Alternatively, (3) an order for non- enforcement of the order of 30th July 2007."
HOW DOES THE FATHER ARGUE HIS CASE?
(i) the judgment of 30th July 2007 is so stale, given the passage of over two years and all that has passed in the short lives of these two young children, that it would be manifestly contrary to the public policy of the member state in which recognition is sought, taking account of the best interests of the children, to register it and/or, if registered, enforce it;
(ii )the children, prior to the making of the judgment of 30th July, were not given a proper opportunity to be heard. The mother's and possibly her then partner's interpretation of the children's wishes to the psychologist tainting the whole exercise fundamentally and/or the children, being in her presence, it skewed, if they are correctly reported as to their wishes and feelings, what they relayed to the court as their wishes and feelings because it had to be announced in the presence of their mother and they had no wish to upset her.
PREVIOUS AUTHORITIES
"[32] The Article does not refer simply to recognition being contrary to the best interests of the child. It refers, rather, to recognition being contrary to public policy, taking into account the best interests of the child. Merely to reconsider the best interests of the child would be to review the Belgian judgment (which is clearly welfare based) as to its substance, which is forbidden …. I have to take into account the best interests of M, but ultimately to consider whether recognition is manifestly contrary to English public policy. To say that something is contrary to public policy is a high hurdle, to which the Article adds the word 'manifestly'. This is an international convention and I must apply it purposively, giving appropriate weight to the word manifestly. Indeed, the judgment of the European Court in the case of Krombach v Bamberski [2001] 3 WLR 488, … although given in a very different context, affords some guidance. At para [21] the court said in relation to a similar provision of a similar convention, although not employing the added qualification of 'manifestly':
'… the court has held that this provision must be interpreted strictly inasmuch as it constitutes an obstacle to the attainment of one of the fundamental objectives of the Convention … With regard, more specifically, to recourse to the public policy clause … the court has made it clear that such recourse is to be had only in exceptional cases …'
"[33] I accept the submission of Mr Everall that it is possible to contemplate a situation in which an order of a foreign court is so strongly contrary to the welfare of the child concerned that it would be possible to conclude that its recognition was manifestly contrary to the public policy of our State …"
"[36] As I have already made plain during the course of argument, it seems to me that Brussels II draws a clear distinction between recognition and registration on the one hand and enforcement on the other hand. I am conscious that Art 21(1) [now Art 28 of the regulation I am considering] is in mandatory terms in that it provides that a judgment on the exercise of parental responsibility 'shall be enforced in another Member State', when it has been declared enforceable there; and that the process of registration amounts within the UK to declaring the judgment enforceable. Nevertheless, all issues of enforcement are for another day, and, provisionally, it seems to me that the English court, as the enforcing court, will have similar discretions as to the extent to which and terms upon which it enforces the order, as it would have when deciding how far to go in actual enforcement of an order of its own."
I find these passages, if I may respectfully say so, persuasive, subject to one matter appearing in paragraph 33 of this judgment, in the course of which, as I shall relate, Holman J. retreats in part of his commentary from the position contained in paragraph 36 above set out. Further, I would venture the comment that whilst Holman J. accepted that there might be circumstances where the "order of a foreign court is so strongly contrary to the welfare of the child that its recognition was manifestly contrary to the public policy of our state" I consider that such cases would be extremely rare, and that the consequences for the children of recognition and enforcement, though these are separate stages from each other, would have to be of the utmost seriousness. I do not consider it necessary, appropriate or wise to attempt to give examples.
"Article 21 [I believe that to be Art 28 of the regulation I am considering] is unqualified and employs the word 'shall': 'shall be enforced'. Article 24(3) [the current equivalent in the regulation I am considering being Art 31(3)] repeats, specifically in relation to the enforcement stage, that 'under no circumstances may a judgment be reviewed as to its substance'. So that embargo is as emphatic in relation to enforcement as to recognition. [I have made the same point already when setting out the relevant provisions of the regulation I am construing.] Article 24(2) [that is Art 31(2) of the regulation I am considering] imports into the enforcement stage the 'reasons' in Arts 15, 16 and 17. [that is now Arts 22, 23 and 24] Note, however, that whereas Art 15 employs imperative language ('shall not be recognised'), Art 24(2) is permissive: 'may be refused', although refusal may only be for one of the reasons specified in the stated Articles. It is, however, significant that reference to the Art 15 reasons is repeated in Art 24. The whole of section 2, Enforcement, only comes into operation when a judgment has been already recognised/registered and, accordingly, that it has been concluded that none of the Art 15(2) reasons apply. So the fact that Art 24(2) imports again the Art 15(2) reasons into the enforcement stage must indicate that a decision in relation to those reasons at the recognition/registration stage is not conclusive for the enforcement stage. Paragraphs (b), (c) and (d) of Art 15(2) all relate to past events and, essentially, to matters of fact and it is difficult to see how the reasons in those paragraphs could fall for reconsideration. Clearly, however, the facts under paras (e) and (f), which refer to a later judgment, could change if such a later judgment was given; and it seems to me at least possible that facts could change between the recognition/registration and enforcement stages such that enforcement would be manifestly contrary to public policy even though recognition/registration was not.
"[10] Article 23 [current Art 30] is, in my view, strictly procedural … I agree that the Article clearly requires that procedure be governed by the law of the State in which enforcement is sought, but I cannot accept that Art 23 imports also the 'principles' of that State. To do so would be, in effect, to undermine the whole thrust and purpose of Brussels II and to substitute at the enforcement stage local 'principles' for the principles and decision of the State of origin. It would infringe the embargo in Art 24(3) against review as to substance, and would substitute local 'principles' as a reason for non- enforcement for the much more stringent reasons under Art 15.
"[11] Finally, I comment briefly on Art 29, [Art 36 in the instrument I am considering] partial enforcement … where the applicant has requested enforcement of the whole, the scope of Art 29(1) is strictly limited. It applies where enforcement 'cannot' be authorised for all of the matters. Its effect is, in my view, to relieve a court from seeking to enforce that which is impossible, …
"[12] What, however, does 'enforce' and enforcement' mean in the context of section 2 and Brussels II as a whole? It does not, in my view, carry the narrow meaning of 'apply sanctions', rather it means to give force or effect to the underlying judgment or, in plain language, to make it happen."
In the next paragraph of his judgment Holman J. says this:
"[13] Applying these considerations to section 2, Enforcement, I now consider that I expressed myself too widely in para [36] of Re S (Brussels II: Recognition: Best Interests of Child) (No 1) [2003] EWHC 2115 (Fam), [2004] 1 FLR 571 where I said that 'provisionally, it seems to me that the English court, as the enforcing court, will have similar discretions as to the extent to which and terms upon which it enforces the order, as it would have when deciding how far to go in actual enforcement of an order of its own'. When the court enforces an order of its own, one of the powers it may exercise, actually or implicitly, is the power to vary. That power is not available when enforcing under Brussels II. Further, within a purely domestic case the welfare of the child must be paramount even in the enforcement process, although consideration of obedience to court orders is important too.
"[14] Under section 2, Enforcement, of Brussels II, however, the duty of, and discretion in, the court are different. Under Art 21 there is an overriding duty to enforce. There can be no review as to substance and only limited discretion under Art 24(2). There is no variation power. The duty is to make the foreign judgment happen and there is only such discretion as fulfilment of that duty requires. … The position of the child, and of the adults, and the well-being of the child are all relevant. … But welfare is not paramount or even the primary consideration."
I find once again, if I may respectfully say so, these arguments to be persuasive.
"A high onus rests upon a parent who seeks to reopen welfare issues which, normally, would have been relatively recently the subject of investigation and decision in the courts of the country where the order was made, and to avoid that outcome as a matter of policy 'under no circumstances may a judgment be reviewed as to its substance'. The importation of these Regulations into English domestic law has the effect, as it seems to me, that our own public policy must enshrine and give credit to the concept that the child's interests (as the judge in the court of recognition and enforcement may perceive them) are but an element in the equation, and thus that the policy must be save in the most exceptional of circumstances not to allow the foreign judgment to be subverted."
In paragraph 50 of the same case, in the context of considering enforcement of a foreign order relating to contact under the European Convention, if I may so call it for shorthand, he said (again only extracting one small passage from the relevant paragraph):
"The use of the word 'manifestly' connotes a very high degree of disparity between the order's effects if now enforced and the child's current welfare interests, and that disparity must be wrought by the changed circumstances. Whether or not such manifest disparity exists is to be tested against the immediate enforcement of the order, without delay, review or alteration."
I find these comments also to be persuasive, and in so finding I do not fail to remind myself that Singer J. was referring to the majority of the cases where "normally" they would have been decided "relatively recently". I note further that Singer J. does not, however, restrict the nature of his observations solely to that category of cases normally recently decided. Further, I note and agree with his comment that it would only be in the most exceptional circumstances that the policy of the regulation would be allowed to be subverted by non-recognition and/or non-enforcement.
"In enforcement proceedings the English court could not defeat the purpose of the European court order on the basis of 'welfare considerations', even if welfare considerations were paramount in certain proceedings which was not at all certain. New welfare issues could be dealt with in proceedings in the European court that had made the earlier order."
In the body of her judgment this proposition is set out in the following way:
"[53] Mr. Nicholls argues that the court considering enforcement could and should approach the question of enforcement with the welfare of the child as its paramount consideration. He submits that were this not the case there would be no process by which to deal with issues such as passage of time, changed circumstances, and wishes and feelings of the child, given that these matters cannot enter into the question of registration.
"[54] The first point to make in relation to this submission is that it is incorrect to say that a welfare-based enforcement process in the UK is the only way in which to deal with issues such as the passage of time and change in circumstances. As this case shows, proceedings in the court which made the order by way of an appeal or an application to vary provides an alternative and one which, in my view, is a great deal more consistent with the provisions of the regulation.
"[57] I am far from convinced that welfare is necessarily paramount in enforcement proceedings in England and Wales. If it is not, Mr. Nicholls' argument falls away on that basis. Even if it is, I am far from convinced that the phrase to which he draws attention is to be construed in such a way as to enable the English court to defeat the purpose of the European court order on the basis of 'welfare considerations'. If that were to be the case it would run completely contrary to the very clear statements in the regulations that the substance of the foreign judgment must not be reviewed, and to the purpose, as I understand it, of the regulation."
I again find those observations of my sister, Black J., persuasive, although for my part I respectfully go a little further than her when, in paragraph 57, she appears possibly to have held the door open to future arguments that welfare is necessarily paramount in enforcement proceedings by using the expression "I am far from convinced". For my part, I do not regard welfare as paramount in enforcement proceedings for the reasons which appear on the face of the regulation itself, and which I have set out above.
"29 Mr. Harrison argued that the Art 23 grounds for non-recognition are not made out in this case. He quite rightly points to the test applicable to that regulation or any of its provisions and submits, again rightly in my judgment, that the test is a very high one … Mr. Harrison also warns me that I should eschew the temptation to be drawn into welfare consideration too far to 'as to allow them in any sense to drive my approach to the application of the escape route provision'."
At paragraph 38 I said this:
"Mr. Harrison declined to answer the point I raised in argument, namely that if he is correct and I am bound to enforce the Polish order whatever has occurred since it was made, unless of course an Art 23 issue is found to be in play, is the Polish order to be regarded as immutable during the minority of the child? He agrees with me that that clearly cannot be so, for to so assert would mean that an order made when a child is but an infant or of tender years would or might be wholly inappropriate to a teenager and becomes a 'straitjacket', but he declines to grapple with the underlying point behind this area of the debate, namely when does the court assume powers to vary or discharge an earlier order?" I add, made by another member state.
I fear that in that case it seems to me, on re-reading my judgment, it was not made sufficiently clear by me that the course I adopted, namely recognising the Polish order but declining to enforce it, was a wholly exceptional course to take in proceedings under the regulation and was, in that instance, entirely specific to its facts. It also seems to me, and perhaps I was in error in one of the passages I have read out is not emphasising that because it was so wholly exceptional a case it had fallen into the category of one of the grounds in Art 23 leading to non-enforcement on public policy grounds.
"43 … In cases where discretion arises from the terms of the Convention itself it seems to me that the discretion is at large. The court is entitled to take into account the various aspects of the Convention policy alongside the circumstances which give the court the discretion in the first place and the wider considerations of the child's rights and welfare. I would therefore respectfully agree with Thorpe LJ in the passage quoted in paragraph 32 above, save for the word 'overriding', if it is suggested the Convention objectives should always be given more weight than the other considerations. Sometimes they should and sometimes they should not.
"44 The Convention itself defined when a child must be returned and when he need not be. Thereafter, the weight to be given to Convention considerations and to the interests of the child could vary enormously. The extent to which it would be appropriate to investigate welfare considerations will also vary, but the further away one gets from the speedy return envisaged by the Convention the less weighty those general Convention considerations must be."
I warn myself that in considering those passages the structure of the Hague Convention is significantly different from the instrument, in many respects, including as it does specific provision for defences such as settlement, Art 12, and the tests of harm, Art 13, to be deployed. Here it is the filtering lens of Art 23 of the regulation which must be looked through to see whether or not delay in combination with other powerful and exceptional factors might have led to a change in a child's life of such significance that the new scenario would amount to a reason for non-recognition of the kind identified in Art 23.
THE EUROPEAN CONVENTION FOR THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS 1950
THE CHILDREN'S WISHES AND FEELINGS
"Private. Dear Judge, 19th August 2009. My brother and I have talked between ourselves and we want to live in England because we have enjoyed living in England with our Dad. The statement that my mother has given is totally untrue. We did not speak Spanish to the psychiatrist. I was asked who I wanted to translate for me. I said my mother because I didn't really like her ex-boyfriend, M. She sat with me and translated what I said. I was asked who I wanted to live with. I said my Mom because I was worried of hurting her feelings. We would like someone to listen to us as we want to stay in England with our Dad and our friends, family. This is our home. We have spoken to Mom about staying in England but she is not listening to us. I have told her lots of times. We do love our Mom but we do not want to live with her, and we do not want to live in Spain. We want to stay in our home. I am looking forward to going to my new school in England. We have lots of hobbies in England we don't want to give up: horse riding (horsemanship), trampolining, Guides. My brother would like to continue his karate and swimming. Please listen to us and help us.
Signed T and J."
(i) They are a clear statement of the current views of the children as to where they would wish to live. They deploy by way of information a sense of their daily lives and of their interests and of their strongly expressed view about where and with whom they wish to live;
(ii) Unhappily, the content also suggests a familiarity with the papers in the case, an obvious inference arising that the father has made them available to the children and/or talked in some considerable detail to them about the contents. If this is true, it underlines, in my judgment, the unhappy finding of the Spanish court in 2007 that the father uses these proceedings to manipulate events to his own advantage. I emphasise, however, that I have not heard oral evidence and thus such an observation must be tentative.
(iii) Whilst the children express a strong preference for life in England, it is clear that they love their mother and, as many children do who are returned by the operation of the Hague Convention or the regulation to the country from which they were wrongfully removed, they will settle after the upheaval of the return.
DISCUSSION
ARTICLE 15
MR. SETRIGHT: My Lord, two points. One very modest. Paragraph 44 under the heading "Discussion" my Lord referred to his references, the relevant aspects of the "Convention" and the authorities – regulation in this context.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: I correct that. I meant Regulation. Thank you for pointing it out. Could the transcriber accordingly amend.
MR. SETRIGHT: Secondly, as to the proposals. My Lord set out what he understood mine and invited clarification if appropriate. What I had in mind was this. I was making submissions on coercion and what would happen if that stage were reached, and I suggested it had not been reached at the moment and one might reasonably expect that the father (and I do not interpolate these words but I do now for clarity) faced with a decision in principle would then cooperate in the interests of the children in making provision for a regular and easy transfer, however much he may regret having so to do. So the short period was literally that, my Lord. It was a matter of a few moments, if my Lord gave the indulgence now, for the father to see whether he was able to agree proposals. If not, then the court may have to impose it.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: Thank you very much. I will adopt that policy, but before I do, I fear I have just turned over a sheet and I have yet two more paragraphs of the judgment to go.
MR. SETRIGHT: I will sit down in that case, my Lord.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: I am very sorry, I turned a sheet the wrong way round. [Paragraphs inserted at proper place] That really does conclude the judgment. I will rise and Miss Meyer can consider the position with the father.
MISS MEYER: My Lord, before we do that, may I just draw to your attention a few perhaps very minor matters in relation to the judgment?
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: Yes, of course you may.
MISS MEYER: In paragraph 3, my Lord, I think you indicated that you were unaware of the date of the originating summons.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: Yes, my copy is unstamped.
MISS MEYER: It is, but the order that appears at A4 records at the beginning of the order that the date it was issued was 7th May.
My Lord, you also indicated (and I simply do this so that those behind me are aware that the court is aware of these matters) in your chronology when relating to the Spanish orders, I believe it is in paragraph 8, various applications that the mother had made in Spain on 2nd February 2008, 21st May 2008 leading on to 2nd June and indicated that the father had not complied with or had ignored those orders. At B67 of the bundle in his statement he made it clear that he was unaware of the fact that those orders had been made, and there is no evidence in the bundle that shows service of those orders upon him.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: Just let me make a note. I wonder if you could help me. Shall we go back to square one. The originating summons to which I refer in paragraph 3 was issued on 7th May. Then paragraph 8 No evidence father served or aware of orders of 2nd February 2008 and 21st May 2008.
MISS MEYER: Then finally, my Lord, in paragraph 41, when you made reference to the father's variation application filed in Spain and were making reference to the documents attached to that being from the school, from the craft teacher and the horse riding establishment you referred to them as witness statements. My Lord, I am sorry if that is the impression I gave of those documents. They are in fact letters.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: Thank you. I am sure you did not. I was never entirely clear what it was, and as I say, I declined to look at it. They are not witness statements but letters. Thank you.
MISS MEYER: My Lord, obviously, I would wish to take advantage of the time.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: Of course. Rather than rush it, do you want to come back at 2 o'clock.
MISS MEYER: My Lord, can I say in the first instance that half an hour would at least allow me to indicate.
MR. JUSTICE RODERIC WOOD: Take a preliminary view. Could I ask you, please, to put the children's letter on the court master file in a sealed envelope marked "Children's letter – not to be opened without leave of the court".