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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales High Court (Family Division) Decisions >> A (A Child) (Vulnerable Witness), Re [2013] EWHC 1694 (Fam) (17 June 2013) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2013/1694.html Cite as: [2013] EWHC 1694 (Fam) |
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I direct that pursuant to CPR PD 39A para 6.1 no official shorthand note shall be taken of this Judgment and that copies of this version as handed down may be treated as authentic. This judgment is consists of 46 paragraphs. The judge hereby gives leave for it to be reported.
The judgment is being distributed on the strict understanding that in any report no person other than the advocates or the solicitors instructing them (and other persons identified by name in the judgment itself) may be identified by name or location and that in particular the anonymity of the children and the adult members of their family must be strictly preserved.
FAMILY DIVISION
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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Re A (a Child) (Vulnerable Witness) |
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The first respondent, father, appeared in person via a telephone link
Mark Twomey represented the first intervenor, Surrey County Council
Sarah Morgan QC and Andrew Bagchi (pro bono) represented X, the second intervenor
Paul Storey QC and Camille Habboo represented A by her Children's Guardian
Hearing date: 12th June 2013
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Crown Copyright ©
Mrs Justice Pauffley:
Introduction
Essential background
Parties' positions
(i) X
(ii) A's mother
(iii) A's father
(iv) the Children's Guardian
Discussion
Psychiatric advice
Other factors
• The importance of the issue as to whether or not X's allegations are true. Findings one way or the other are pivotal to resolving the dispute between F and M in relation to A.
• Putting the matter bluntly, there must be a possibility that justice cannot be achieved for A unless X participates by providing evidence. There is no ABE interview. Such 'evidence' as exists is sketchy; many questions arise as to its overall quality.
• Doing the best I can to forecast the way in which the hearing will / could proceed, I envisage X's contribution to be central. The more she is able to say, indicate and participate the better able will I be to achieve a just result for A.
• It is a pity that X was unable to discuss the Intermediary options as fully with Dr B as she might. That arose principally it would seem out of Dr B's lack of familiarity with the ways of the family justice system. As she said in evidence, she has not before assessed vulnerable witnesses "to any great extent"; this has been "an unusual case" for her; she has not been in court when a witness has been represented by an Intermediary, though her work at Holloway means that she is very regularly assessing the capacity of individuals so as to advise the criminal court. Hopefully, as the result of Naomi Mason's intervention tomorrow, X will be better informed as to the assistance she might receive.
• As X doubtless knows resulting from the advice she's already received from her immensely experienced legal team, if she does not give evidence then less weight will attach to the information she has supplied thus far. It must be a real possibility that justice will not be achievable.
• The extent of X's participation is a matter which will be kept under constant review. Currently, as Miss Morgan is right to point out, I am not faced with diametric opposition. Nothing is fixed in stone. I will respond as necessary to what I fully expect will be a developing situation.
Finally – three points for X's consideration