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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales High Court (Family Division) Decisions >> PW & Ors v Luton Borough Council [2017] EWHC 3028 (Fam) (06 September 2017) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2017/3028.html Cite as: [2017] WLR(D) 794, [2017] EWHC 3028 (Fam), [2018] 1 FLR 1593, [2017] 4 WLR 219 |
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FAMILY DIVISION
Royal Courts of Justice
B e f o r e :
(In Private)
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PW MT SW & TW | Claimants | |
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LUTON BOROUGH COUNCIL | Defendant |
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This transcript has been approved by the Judge.
MS M SAVAGE (instructed by the Local Authority) appeared on behalf of the Defendant.
MR M BIRDLING (instructed by the Government Legal Department) appeared on behalf of the Legal Aid Agency.
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MR JUSTICE COBB:
"In the circumstances of this case, the Legal Aid Agency considers that the Human Rights Act damages would be 'property recovered by the individual in proceedings or in any compromise or settlement of the dispute in connection with which the services were provided'."
"The claimants do not ask the court to adjudicate on this issue - namely, the issue of the application of the statutory charge - at the hearing on 6 September. No decision on the application of the statutory charge to the settlement sum has yet been taken by the Legal Aid Agency. If an adverse decision is taken, the correct procedure for challenging it is by a claim for judicial review …"
"In order that we can understand your position more, please could you send me copies of all of the pleadings, statements of case and orders in the care proceedings and in the proposed Human Rights Act case".
"I am going to be meeting Barry later to see what he has got so that I don't ask you to send me material that the Legal Aid Agency already has".
"I will not be able to provide an answer to your letter until I have a comprehensive copy of the pleadings that show what the issues were in the care case and the HRA claim. I have not seen the pleadings that Barry has yet and I am just checking with my client what pleadings they would find helpful. I am hoping to be able to let you know in the next hour".
"The Legal Aid Agency has not yet reached a decision as to the statutory charge would apply in the claimants' case".
"In this regard, the Legal Aid Agency has previously filed written representations in this matter as directed by the court based on its understanding of the factual background which was set out in those representations. It appears from correspondence received from the claimants' solicitors subsequent to that date that its understanding of the relevant background may have been incomplete. At the conclusion of these proceedings, the Legal Aid Agency will consider the operation of the statutory charge in light of that correspondence, the final outcome of the case and the material which has been disclosed to it".
"For the avoidance of doubt, our skeleton argument does not set out that we think a decision should be taken at the end of the case. It simply confirms our client's position that this is not a matter for consideration within these proceedings".
"It is our view that the Legal Aid Agency should make a decision now and has the required information to do so. The approval application will not provide any further information about the case that the Legal Aid Agency does not currently have in its possession and, in our view, has no bearing on the issues that the Legal Aid Agency must consider when deciding whether the statutory charge applies".
"The HRA claim is not yet concluded and so the decision will be made after you have reported the outcome of that case to the Legal Aid Agency and, if necessary, your file has been considered".
"You will be aware that the Legal Aid Agency's refusal to provide a decision about the statutory charge was subject to criticism from HHJ Keeham (sic) in the case of H v Northamptonshire. In this case, a costs order was made against the Legal Aid Agency due to delays in its decision-making process. Should you continue to fail to make a decision, we will be seeking directions from Mr Justice Cobb on this issue".
"The Legal Aid Agency has not refused to make a decision. The Legal Aid Agency has not been provided with any documentation in the Human Rights Act Part 8 claim which was issued last week. As the statutory test is whether there is a connection between this case and the care proceedings, it is essential that the Legal Aid Agency is provided with this information and the order which concluded the care proceedings on 8 March which I understand has not been provided either".
"The Legal Aid Agency understands the need to bring this matter to a conclusion and has no objection in principle to indicating whether or not the statutory charge will apply by 27 September. However, it will only be able to do so if the documentation which it reasonably requires to reach a view on this matter is provided in good time in advance of this".
"It will be a matter for judgment and the exercise by the judge of his discretion to decide whether the circumstances relied on are such as to make it just to order the some non-party to pay the costs. Thus, as it seems to me, the exceptional case is one to be recognised by comparison with the ordinary run of cases not defined in advanced by reference to any further characteristic".