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QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
(sitting as a Judge of the High Court)
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BIBBY FINANCIAL SERVICES LIMITED BIBBY INVOICE DISCOUNTING LIMITED |
Claimants |
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RICHARD MAGSON ROBERT STUART FRANKLIN SCOTT SARACEN PLANT HIRE LIMITED |
Defendants |
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And Between: |
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ROBERT STUART FRANKLIN SCOTT |
Part 20 Claimant |
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-and- |
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RICHARD MAGSON |
Part 20 Defendant |
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David Alexander Q.C. (instructed by Olswang LLP) for the first defendant/ Part 20 defendant
Jonathan Miller (instructed by Key2Law LLP) for the second defendant/Part 20 claimant
The third defendant did not appear and was not represented.
Hearing dates: 28, 29, 30 June, 1, 4 – 8, 11 – 15, 18 – 21 July 2011
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Crown Copyright ©
His Honour Judge Richard Seymour Q.C. :
Introduction
"The Security Trustee shall hold the Trust Property upon the trusts herein contained for the Security Beneficiaries and the obligations, rights and benefits vested or to be vested in the Security Trustee by the Security Documents or any document entered into pursuant thereto shall (as well before as after enforcement) be performed and (as the case may be) exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Deed."
" "Bibby Companies" means any person which is or becomes at any time a party to this Deed in such capacity;
"Client" means any person which is a party to any Finance Document in a capacity as an assignor, seller, borrower, chargor or guarantor at any time;
"Finance Documents" means this Deed, each Security Document and each document to which a Bibby Company and the Client are party at any time pursuant to which assets are purchased or assigned, or credit or other facilities made available;
"Guarantees" means each document pursuant to which any person purports to guarantee, grant an indemnity in respect of, or stand as surety for any of the Secured Obligations;
"Guarantors" means each person who grants a Guarantee at any time;
"Obligors" means the Guarantors and the Clients from time to time;
"Secured Obligations" means
(i) all present and future obligations (whether actual or contingent and whether owed jointly or severally or alone, as principal or surety or in any other capacity whatsoever and whether a Security Beneficiary shall have been an original party to the relevant transaction or document) of each Obligor to the Security Trustee (whether on its own account or on behalf of any of the Security Beneficiaries) or to the other Security Beneficiaries (or any of them) at any time;
(ii) all reasonable costs, charges and expenses properly incurred by the Security Trustee or the Security Beneficiaries (or any of them) in connection with the preparation and negotiation of any Finance Document or any consent or waiver pursuant to, or amendment of, any Finance Document; and
(iii) all costs, charges and expenses incurred by the Security Trustee and the Security Beneficiaries (or any of them) in connection with the protection, preservation or enforcement of their respective rights in respect of the Obligors, howsoever arising under any Finance Document,
provided that no obligation or liability shall be included in the definition of "Secured Obligations" to the extent that, if it were so included, this Deed (or any part of it) would constitute unlawful financial assistance within the meaning of sections 151 and 152 of the Companies Act 1985;
"Security Beneficiaries" means each of (1) the Security Trustee and (2) the Bibby Companies from time to time;
"Security Documents" means all documents executed by any person purporting to create a Security Interest in respect of any of the Secured Obligations at any time and all Guarantees and including in each case for the avoidance of doubt all documents acceding to them;
"Security Interest" means any mortgage, pledge, lien, charge, assignment by way of security, hypothecation, security interest, title retention, preferential right or trust arrangement or any other security agreement or arrangement having the effect of security;
"Trust Property" means all rights, titles and interests that may now or hereafter be given, granted, mortgaged, charged or assigned in favour of the Security Trustee by or pursuant to the Security Documents or any of them and the proceeds of any such guarantees and security."
"1.3 Trust
1.3.1 The Security Trustee shall hold the benefit of the covenants contained in this Deed and all its rights and claims under this Deed as trustee for the Security Beneficiaries from time to time on the terms set out in the Security Trust Deed.
1.3.2 Any reference to security being granted or executed or obligations being entered into "in favour of the Security Trustee" means such security being granted or executed or obligations being entered into in favour of the Security Trustee as trustee for the Security Beneficiaries from time to time.
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3. GUARANTEE AND INDEMNITY
3.1 The Surety, as principal obligor irrevocably and unconditionally:
3.1.1 guarantees to the Security Trustee full, prompt and complete performance of all of the Secured Obligations owing by any one or more of the Clients and the due and punctual payment of all the sums comprised in the Secured Obligations owing by each such Client as and when they become due;
3.1.2 undertakes to the Security Trustee that if any of the Clients fail to pay any sum comprised in the Secured Obligations on its due date it will pay such sum on demand as if it instead of such Client were the principal obligor in respect of those Secured Obligations; and
3.1.3 undertakes to pay to the Security Trustee as an additional and independent obligation on an indemnity basis an amount equal to all losses, damages, costs and expenses incurred by the Security Trustee or any other Security Beneficiary arising from any failure by any of the Clients to pay the sums comprised in the Secured Obligations as and when they fall due.
3.2 All sums of money which may not be recoverable from a Surety on the footing of a guarantee whether by reason of any legal limitation, disability or incapacity on or of any Client or any other fact or circumstances and whether known to the Security Trustee or not shall nevertheless be recoverable from such Surety as principal debtor and shall be paid by the Surety on the written demand of the Security Trustee.
3.3 The Surety acknowledges and agrees that its obligations under this Deed shall be continuing obligations and shall extend to cover the ultimate balance due at any time to the Security Beneficiaries from each Client.
3.4 If an amount is demanded under clause 8 ...Costs and expenses) or the Surety shall fail to pay any amount under this Deed when it is due then such amount shall bear interest (after as well as before judgment and payable on demand) at the Default Rate from time to time from the day on which those monies were paid, incurred or charged by the relevant person or, in the case of an amount paid when due, from the due date, in each case until the date such amount is paid in full to the Security Trustee.
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7. RELEASE OF GUARANTEE
This Deed shall be a continuing security notwithstanding the death or disability of the Surety until three months after receipt by the Security Trustee of written notice from the Surety or the Surety's personal representative to determine this Deed. On expiry of that notice period, the Surety's liability shall be fixed at the amount recoverable from the Client at that date (including unascertained or contingent liabilities).
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9. CALCULATIONS AND CERTIFICATES
A certificate of the Security Trustee specifying the amount of any Secured Obligation due from the Client and or the Surety (including details of any relevant calculation thereof) shall be prima facie evidence of such amount in the absence of manifest error.
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13. THIRD PARTY RIGHTS
A person who is not a party to this Deed shall have no right under the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 to enforce any term of this Deed. This clause does not affect any right or remedy of any person which exists or is available otherwise than pursuant to that Act."
"Limit on Recoverability
The total amount recoverable under clause 3 ...Guarantee and Indemnity) of this Deed shall be limited to a sum equal to £25,000 (twenty five thousand pounds) together with interest calculated in accordance with the terms of this Deed and all costs, charges and expenses reasonably incurred by the Security Trustee or Security Beneficiaries in enforcing or attempting to enforce payment under this Deed."
"the higher of five per cent (5%) per annum above the base rate for the time being of Barclays Bank PLC and the discount charge, interest rate or other rate which the Bibby Company would otherwise charge on the Secured Obligations which gave rise to the amount payable hereunder or, in either case, such lower rate as the Security Trustee may specify at any time;"
"1.3 Trust
1.3.1 The Security Trustee shall hold the benefit of the covenants contained in this Deed and all its rights and claims under this Deed as trustee for the Security Beneficiaries from time to time on the terms set out in the Security Trust Deed.
1.3.2 Any reference to security being granted or executed or obligations being entered into "in favour of the Security Trustee" means such security being granted or executed or obligations being entered into in favour of the Security Trustee as trustee for the Security Beneficiaries from time to time.
2. WARRANTY
2.1 The Warrantor undertakes to pay to the Security Trustee on an indemnity basis an amount equal to all losses, damages, costs, expenses, claims, interest and demands which the Security Trustee or any other Security Beneficiary may suffer or incur in consequence of any breach by any Client of its obligations and liabilities to you from time to time where such breach arises out of any acts or omissions of a dishonest or deceitful nature, or out of any breach by the Warrantor or any Client of the obligations set out in clause 2.3.
2.2 For the purposes of this indemnity an act or omission of a dishonest or deceitful nature shall include:
2.2.1 the notification of a debt which is not a valid and enforceable obligation of a customer of any Client;
2.2.2 the failure to forthwith deliver to a Security Beneficiary any monies tendered by a customer in or towards the discharge of a debt notified to a Security Beneficiary by any Client pursuant to any agreement with a Security Beneficiary.
2.3 The Warrantor will or will procure that:
2.3.1 each Client keeps proper and full accounting records of all Debts due to the Client and sold to any Bibby Company; and
2.3.2 all monies received by a Client in respect of any Debt sold to a Bibby Company are kept separate from monies belonging to the Client and are dealt with promptly following receipt in accordance with the provisions of the Finance Documents; and
2.3.3 all Debts notified to a Bibby Company pursuant to the Finance Documents are bona fide existing obligations of the debtors arising out of a sale of goods or provision of services by a Client in the ordinary course of its business and further that the debtors are not associates of such Client; and
2.3.4 the issuing of all credit notes to debtors is for a valid reason and should not exceed the credit note limit agreed with the relevant Bibby Company from time to time without the prior written approval of such Bibby Company. In all circumstances credit notes should be promptly notified to the relevant Bibby Company; and
2.3.5 those employees of any Client who are responsible for issuing or collecting invoices to Customers of the Client are aware of and will observe at all times the terms of the Finance Documents; and
2.3.6 all signatories and statements contained or appearing in every order, debt schedule, offer or other document supplied to a Bibby Company and relating to a Debt shall be true and genuine.
2.4 The Warrantor further agrees to pay to the Security Trustee on an indemnity basis an amount equal to all losses, damages, costs, expenses, claims, interest and demands which the Security Trustee or any other Security Beneficiary may suffer or incur as a consequence of any negligent act or omission by any Client.
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"any present, future or contingent obligation of a person to make payment under a contract for the provision of goods or services by a Client to that person;"
"1. The Commencement Date is 29th September 2008 (condition 2.1).
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4. This Agreement shall apply to the following categories of Debts: All Debts (condition 3.1)
5. The Approved Funding Percentage is 85% (definition of "Available Funds" in condition 21).
6. The Customer Concentration Percentage is 40% (condition 6.8.3).
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11. The Funding Limit is £450,000 (condition 6.8.2).
12. The Credit Note Limit is £500 excluding Value Added Tax (condition 10.1.4).
13. The Approval Period is 120 days from the date of the relevant invoice (condition 5.7)."
"3.1 This Agreement shall apply to the categories of Debts referred to in clause 4 of the Particulars and such other categories of Debts as we may agree in writing with you.
3.2 By this Agreement you assign to us with full title guarantee all Debts together with their Related Rights which are Outstanding on the Commencement Date until this Agreement is terminated. The ownership of each Initial Debt and its Related Rights shall vest in us on the Commencement Date. The ownership of each Debt coming into existence after the Commencement Date and its Related Rights shall vest in us automatically upon the Debt coming into existence.
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3.9 Any credit note will be raised immediately when due and Notified to us on a Credit Note Schedule together with, if we tell you, a copy of the credit note within 2 days of its issue.
4.1 The Purchase Price of each Debt vesting in us shall be the amount paid to us in or towards discharge of the Debt less:
4.1.1 any Allowance due to or taken by the Customer; and
4.1.2 Factor's Discount, Fees and any other amounts due from you to us under this Agreement or any other agreement.
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5.7 An Approved Debt will immediately and without notice become a Disapproved Debt:
5.7.1 upon expiry of the Approval Period;
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5.9 If an Approved Debt becomes a Disapproved Debt, you will forthwith repay any Prepayment made in respect of such Debt.
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6.2 The anticipated Purchase Price of all Debts will be credited to your Sales Ledger Control Account. The amount credited may be equivalent to the Notified Value before deduction of the items referred to in conditions 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 and may be adjusted as necessary at any time.
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6.7 You may request payments from us in or towards the Purchase Price of Debts. Subject to the terms of this Agreement and the amount of your Available Funds and the Funding Limit, we may make a:
6.7.1 Prepayment to you in respect of all Outstanding Approved Debts on the Working Day following the receipt of your Invoice Schedule relating to such Debts;
6.7.2 payment to you of the amount or balance of the Purchase Price of Debts equal to any Collection less any Prepayment made in respect of such Debts on the Working Day following receipt of such Collection.
6.8 We shall not be obliged to make any payments to you:
6.8.1 in excess of Available Funds;
6.8.2 if, having made such payment, the balance on your Current Account would exceed the Funding Limit;
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21.1 The following words shall have the meanings as set out after each:
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"Approved Debt" A Debt Notified to us:
(1) which is within the relevant Credit Limit;
(2) which has not become a Disapproved Debt pursuant to conditions 5.7 and 5.8; and
(3) in respect of which we have not exercised our right of Recourse.
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"Available Funds" An amount calculated by applying the Approved Funding Percentage against the aggregate value of Approved Debts and deducting from such sum the balance on your Current Account, and subject to the restrictions in clause 6.8
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"Collection" Any form of payment made to us in cleared funds which is tendered in or towards the discharge of a Debt.
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"Disapproved Debt" Any Debt which is not an Approved Debt
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"Invoice Schedule" A form by which you will specifically assign each Debt to us.
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"Notified Value" The amount of a Debt including VAT as stated in an Invoice Schedule and before deducting any Allowances.
"Notify" The specific assignment of a Debt by its inclusion in an Invoice Schedule or the inclusion of a credit note in a Credit Note Schedule. "Notified" shall be construed accordingly.
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"10. Your undertakings
You undertake, for the duration of this Agreement and until you have discharged all monies owing to us, that:
10.1 after Notifying a Debt to us:
10.1.1 you will not vary the terms of the Contract of Sale, any payment terms or settlement discounts (if any);
10.1.2 you will promptly perform all your obligations to the Customer under the Contract of Sale and, at our request, provide satisfactory evidence of the complete performance of the Contract of Sale;
10.1.3 you will owe no obligations to the Customer other than under the Contract of Sale;
10.1.4 you will not agree with the Customer to allow any credit against the Debt or issue a credit note for a sum in excess of the Credit Note Limit; and
10.1.5 you will not issue or agree with the Customer to issue any credit note against the Debt if we have notified you that you must not do so;
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10.4 save as provided in condition 10.5, you will not include in any Invoice Schedule any Debt:
10.4.1 until the relevant Contract of Sale has been completely performed;
10.4.2 …
10.4.3 owed by a Customer from whom you purchase goods or services or with whom you have any contra accounting agreements;
10.4.4 which arises from a Contract of Sale containing terms that entitle the Customer to return the goods;
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10.4.7 which arises under a Contract of Sale providing for the supply of goods in instalments or provision of services on a periodic basis unless the Contract of Sale is divisible and the Customer has agreed to pay for each instalment delivery or period irrespective of the performance of your further obligations under the Contract of Sale;
10.5 you will Notify us separately of each Debt which:
10.5.1 does not comply with the undertakings and warranties contained in this Agreement providing particulars of the relevant undertakings and warranties with which you are unable to comply;
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10.6 you will tell us immediately of any:
10.6.1 breach by you of any undertaking or warranty given by you in this Agreement;
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10.6.6 dispute between you and a Customer and provide us with full particulars of such dispute;
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10.10 you will comply with any procedures which we communicate to you for the efficient day-to-day operation of our respective obligations under this Agreement;
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11.1 In relation to each Debt included in an Invoice Schedule, by delivering the Invoice Schedule you will give all the following warranties to us:
11.1.1 the Debt arises under a genuine Contract of Sale made with one of your Customers in the normal course of your business, as stated in the Client Particulars;
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11.1.4 your obligations under the Contract of Sale have been completely performed and the Customer will pay the Debt without raising any dispute, retention, set off or counterclaim;
11.1.5 you do not owe any obligations to the Customer which may reduce the Notified Value of the Debt payable by the Customer;
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11.1.8 the details of the invoice(s) evidencing the Debt as set out in the relevant Invoice Schedule are accurate;
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11.4 Your compliance with condition 10 and this condition 11 of this Agreement are of the essence of this Agreement."
"28. In breach of the Agreement the Company has breached the warranties and undertakings referred to in paragraph 6 (1) – (3) above [those provisions of Conditions 10 and 11 which I have quoted] by notifying debts:
(1) Where the Company's obligations under the Contract of Sale have not been performed and the Customer will not pay the Debt;
(2) Which did not arise under a genuine Contract of Sale;
(3) For which there are no delivery notes or purchase orders;
(4) For which no works were ever commenced;
(5) Which were reduced by unauthorised credit notes.
29. Particulars of the Company's breaches are set out in the Schedule of Breach attached to these Particulars of Claim marked Schedule F."
Customer Invoice or Credit Note numbers
Thermotec 2438D, 2439D
RUP 2413, 2414, 2480, 2669, 2671, 2673
Hallam Castings 2550, 2670
Taylor 2689, 2690
Hallam Plastics 2639 (Credit Note)
Birkby 1695c (Credit Note), 25540
Formula
1. "No Purchase Order. Invoices raised without goods/services delivered/supplied. Manipulation of Bibby's aged debt ledger".
That was adopted for Invoice 2438D and Invoice 2439D (collectively "the Thermotec Invoices").
2. "Invoices raised without goods/services delivered/supplied. Manipulation of Bibby's aged debt ledger".
That was applied to Invoices 2413, 2414 and 2480 addressed to RUP (collectively "the Early RUP Invoices") and to Invoice 25540 addressed to Birkby.
3. "Invoices raised without goods/services delivered/supplied."
This formula was used in the case of the Invoice 2669, Invoice 2671 and Invoice 2673 addressed to RUP (collectively "the Late RUP Invoices") and to Invoice 2689 and Invoice 2690 directed to Taylor (collectively "the Taylor Invoices").
4. "No Purchase Order. Invoices raised without goods/services delivered/supplied."
That form of words was utilised in the case of Invoice 2550 and Invoice 2670 addressed to Hallam Castings (collectively "the Hallam Castings Invoices").
5. "Credit Note. Invoices raised without goods/services delivered/supplied. Not entered on sales ledger/SAGE."
Those words were used in respect of Credit Note 2639 addressed to Hallam Plastics. With the second and third sentences transposed they were also used in respect of Credit Note 1695c directed to Birkby.
"53. As regards the breaches in the nature of the notification of non-existent debts, which is referred to in the evidence as the issue of "fresh air invoices", the following is said by way of background to the details of the breaches contained in the Schedule hereto.
54. The amount available to the client to draw down is the balance on the current account at any time. This reflects movements on the client account and the sales ledger account for each client. The full price to be paid for debt (less fees) is credited to the sales ledger account. This is adjusted by way of debits to the sales ledger account for credit notes and other adjustments to which a customer is entitled. Payments made by Bibby to the client and fees due under the Invoice Discounting Agreement are debited to the client account. The balance on the current account is the balance on the sales ledger account less the balance on the client account at any one time. The client, in this case, QCFS, notifies each day invoices to Bibby which it wishes to assign through Bibby's online E3 system.
55. By issuing a non-existent invoice, the client obtains for himself the benefit of funding without an underlying debt to be collected. That leaves Bibby exposed in that it purchases the invoices assigned to it. Bibby does not want to buy debts which do not exist i.e. they are not debts at all.
56. It will be noted that the invoice discounting arrangement which in this case operated until 23 February 2010, operated on the basis of an assignment of debts based on the declarations of the client, and so Bibby relied upon the integrity of the client that an assigned debt represented something which was a real debt.
57. Where there is a "fresh air invoice", there is not an underlying debt. This has the effect of showing an amount on the sales ledger account and thereby increasing the current account and therefore the amount available to the client to draw down. This is despite the warranties provided as above. As noted above, such a breach is a breach by the client under the Invoice Discounting Agreement, a breach by the Warrantor under clause 2.3.3 of the Deed of Warranty giving rise to damages and gives rise to the indemnity under clause 2.1 of the Deed of Warranty because it is an act deemed to be of a dishonest or deceitful nature (having regard to clause 2.2.1) and/or because it arises out of an act which is a breach by the Warrantor or a client of the obligations set out in clause 2.3.
58. Further, Bibby does not want to continue to purchase debts which are unlikely to be paid, either because they are disputed or because the customer is unable to make the repayment. Bibby therefore agrees a period with each client after which any assigned debts which have not been paid will be disapproved. In this case, the period was 120 days: see Clause C.5 and Condition 5.7 of the Invoice Discounting Agreement. Where a debt becomes disapproved, any prepayment made in respect of it immediately becomes repayable: see Condition 5.9 of the Invoice Discounting Agreement …
59. There were other manipulations, even where the debt existed. One of them was if after an invoice was assigned and to prevent it from being disapproved due to ageing ie 120 days, the client might change the date on an invoice to make it appear more recent than it was. The effect would be that the sales ledger figures would still reconcile but Bibby would not realise that this invoice should be disapproved because in truth the debt was more than 120 days old. The effect would be that the client's available funds would not have been reduced by a debit to the sales ledger control account with a consequent reduction on the balance of the current account.
60. Insofar as the above breaches are not proven, Bibby says that it is entitled to an amount equal to its losses, damages etc. as a consequence of any negligent act or omission by QCFS: see Clause 4 of the Deed of Warranty and para. 4 of Schedule G to the Particulars of Claim.
61. There is an obligation to notify credit notes as soon as they are raised: see Condition 3.9. Failure to do so has as its effect an overstatement of the sales ledger account with a knock on effect on the current account. The consequence is that the client is able to draw down more money that [sic – presumably "than" was meant] should be available to it."
"Particulars of the loss by reason of the matters aforesaid are that if the warranties and obligations of the Company and the Warrantor had been fulfilled, particularly the Debts being valid and enforceable obligations, the loss suffered by the Claimant and Bibby upon the insolvency of the Company would have been reduced by the full value of the invoices, namely the sum of £223,471.54: alternatively, the particulars of loss are set out in the Schedule of Breach/Loss attached to these Particulars of Claim marked Schedule G."
"If, which is denied, the loss and damage claimed in paragraphs 2 and 3 herein [that is, of Schedule G] arose as a consequence of an [sic] negligent act or omission by the Company, the First and Second Defendants are liable to Claimant for the same amount under Clause 2.4 of the Warranties."
The background to, and the circumstances of, the signature of the Bibby ID Agreement, the Guarantees and the Warranties.
"Certainly in personal guarantee terms I don't think we had much reliance on that."
"We would take the view on a staged payment that each stage, if you want to call it stage in that sense, would be an independent order in its own right, signed off, duly delivered, and we would be happy to fund that. …We would take --- there are varying types of stage payments in that sense, and we took the view on this kind that as long as it was signed off, stage 2 and 3 we would be happy to fund."
"… company now has severe cashflow difficulties and director [that is, Mr. Magson] is considering CVA."
"Loads, severe paye and VAT arrears no money in business, it is difficult to understand how the company can continue to trade for much longer. It is unlikely that we will be able to collect on any of the Guarantees we hold and therefore a high level of vigilance is required when financing invoices to ensure that we effect a full ledger collect out."
"28. A factor critical to the success of the new business was securing QCFS's funding going forward. As set out above, BIDL [Bibby ID] was kept entirely up to date with my attempts to restructure Esdale's business, and an important part of this process was establishing a new funding arrangement with BIDL.
29. Accordingly, on 13 or 14 August 2008 I had a conversation by telephone with Mr. Darling at BIDL, who indicated that BIDL would fund the new business on the same terms that it had funded Esdale and that no additional security would need to be provided.
30. However, on 19 August 2008 I was told by Martin Ellison, a client manager at BIDL who worked for Adrian Barrington and was junior to Andrew Darling, in a telephone call, that personal security would be required for the new facility. This was the first time that any form of personal security had been mentioned and Mr. Scott and I were not willing to provide this, and so Mr. Ellison referred the matter to Mr. Darling.
31. As a result, it was agreed with Mr. Darling on another telephone call that day that BIDL would charge a fee of £25,000 for terminating the existing facility/moving the funding across to the new company. This fee would be added to the balance on the facility under the Esdale Agreement, as would Tenon's fees for the administration, which would be another £25,000 (BIDL would be appointing Tenon as the secured creditor, so, if the business failed, BIDL would potentially be liable for Tenon's fees). Accordingly, BIDL required Mr. Scott and I to provide security for those fees until the finance provided to Esdale had been collected out by BIDL. This would mitigate any risk to BIDL around the proposed restructuring. It was agreed that covering these fees, i.e. a personal guarantee by each of Mr. Scott and I limited to £25,000 each, would be the limit of the personal security provided by me and Mr. Scott."
"Q. Yes. If we move on to the 19th August. On that day Mr. Magson says that Mr. Ellison told him in a telephone conversation that personal security would be required for the new facility for QCFS. So it looks like it's just before your paper, on 19th August. Mr. Magson says that Mr. Ellison told him that personal security would be required for the new facility to QCFS.
A. I don't know if that is the case or not.
Q. Only Mr. Ellison could confirm that, couldn't he?
A. I would say yes.
Q. You have no reason to dispute what Mr. Magson says about that, do you?
A. No.
Q. No. Mr. Magson says that neither he nor Mr. Scott were willing to provide any personal security. Mr. Ellison referred the matter to you. Do you agree that that happened?
A. I don't recall that specifically, no.
Q. Mr. Magson then says that on 19th August 2008 he had a telephone conversation with you. Do you recall that?
A. Not specific details.
Q. Do you have any reason to doubt what Mr. Magson says about that?
A. No, not at that stage.
Q. Mr. Magson says that in that telephone conversation it was agreed that Bibby would charge a fee of 25,000 for terminating the existing Esdale facility.
A. There was a discussion along these lines and it was agreed that we would cap our termination fee at 25,000.
Q. Right. He says that it was agreed that that sum would be added to the balance due to Bibby under the old Esdale facility.
A. That sounds about right.
Q. And he says that a further 25,000 would be added to the old Esdale facility for Tenon's fee for carrying out the administration of Esdale.
A. Again, I believe that to be correct.
Q. So, in broad terms, you agree with the whole of that conversation so far.
A. Certainly on the two 25,000 fees, yes.
Q. Mr. Magson says that because of the two 25,000 fees, you explained that personal guarantees for £25,000 each were required of Mr. Magson and Mr. Scott.
A. No. No correlation at all. The fact that 25,000 was the fee to the fact that 25,000 guarantee, purely coincidental.
Q. It's purely coincidental that there are two fees for 25,000 and two guarantees for 25,000?
A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Magson doesn't stop there, he goes further and he says that because of the two 25,000 fees, you explained that personal guarantees were required from them until the finance provided to Esdale had been collected out.
A. No.
Q. I suggest to you that conversation did happen and that you did agree that.
A. No.
Q. The collection out of the old Esdale facility was absolutely uppermost in your mind, wasn't it?
A. It was one of the main features, yes.
Q. What was being added to the collection out of the old Esdale facility was another £50,000 worth of fees.
A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Magson said that that £50,000 of fees was directly linked to the two guarantees and the collection out of the old Esdale facility.
A. No.
Q. You don't accept that?
A. No."
"Bibbys are happy to move over 25k fee which we have to guarantee until oldco collects out as directors.
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Bibbys are willing to appoint Tenons in this situation and are fully aware of the matter, no other security as current business."
"I have too much other PGing [personal guarantees] at the mo[ment] – I won't be able to do [sic] provide one.
Maybe pushed even to do the 5K one on Bibby."
"Bibbys is only till oldco collected."
"No security on the old facility, new facility is to be limited to £25K for the duration of the collectout of the oldco by the directors."
"Mr. Scott and I discussed this further on 20 August 2009 [sic – plainly 2008 was meant] and he suggested I raise with Mr. Darling a six month limit on the guarantee (in addition to the collect out limit). On the same day I discussed the personal guarantee again with Mr. Darling of BIDL and made clear our concerns about providing personal guarantees, especially when BIDL had no security in respect of the current business. Further to Mr. Scott's suggestion, I raised the issue of an additional limitation against the personal guarantee of six months to which Mr. Darling was amenable. Accordingly, on 20 August 2008, Mr. Scott and I finally agreed with Mr. Darling, as a half-way house, that the security would be provided for a period being the earlier of 6 months or until collect-out of the old facility under the Esdale Agreement."
"Q. Mr. Magson says that he and Mr. Scott then had a conversation which in the light of what is going on here I would suggest to you is quite likely?
A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Magson says that in that conversation Mr. Scott suggested that there be a six-month limit on the personal liability, in addition to the limitation about collecting out the Esdale facility. Mr. Magson says that he then spoke [to] you again that day. Any recollection of this?
A. No.
Q. He says that in that conversation he made it clear that he and Mr. Scott had concerns about providing personal guarantees. Have you ever had a conversation with Mr. Magson in which he has expressed the view that he and Mr. Scott had concerns about providing personal guarantees?
A. Not that I can recall, but I wouldn't – I wouldn't be surprised if they did express their concern.
Q. So you don't remember any conversation?
A. No.
Q. But you wouldn't be surprised if they had expressed a concern about providing a personal guarantee?
A. As most guarantors do.
Q. Yes, but you have also seen here that at this moment in time it is quite clear Mr. Scott was very concerned about providing one because he said he couldn't afford to do so.
A. Again, I had no knowledge of that at the time.
Q. Of course, you didn't at the time, but obviously we can now piece the pieces together and there is more information available. But it is quite clear that as at 20th August, Mr. Scott had real concerns about providing a personal guarantee. It also, would it not, would be most unlikely if Mr. Magson didn't tell you that Mr. Scott had those concerns? Correct?
A. I genuinely don't know.
Q. Mr. Magson says he made it clear to you that he and Mr. Scott had concerns about providing personal guarantees when Bibby had no security for the current business. It's right, isn't it, you didn't have anything from Mr. Magson or Mr. Scott at this stage?
A. We had no personal security but we had other security, i.e. the book debts, the debenture.
Q. Yes. I have to say, I had read Mr. Magson as meaning that he and Mr. Scott were not on the hook and you were –
A. Personally they were not on the Esdale business, yes.
Q. So they had concerns about providing personal guarantees when you didn't have any security from them, as in the form of a personal guarantee, for the current business.
A. Yes.
Q. What I would suggest to you is actually Mr. Magson was basically running this business for about six months.
A. I was under that impression, yes.
Q. Yes. He says that with Bob Scott having raised with him saying, look, obviously having concerns about the guarantee, those concerns not being satisfied, it would appear from these emails, by being told that: don't worry, the personal guarantee is only for so long as Bibby collects out the old Esdale debt. He says Mr. Scott said: ask for a six-month limitation as well, will you? Mr. Magson says he had that conversation with you and that you were happy with that.
A. No.
Q. You say "no". Are you saying that did not happen or you do not remember?
A. I have had no discussions around time limitations on the personal guarantees."
"We will take cross guarantees of newco/oldco + £50K worth of PG's [sic – personal guarantees] from the Directors.
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The transaction makes sense – essentially this will remove the "Ellis" Factor, the pension deficit and regrettably HMRC.
The transaction is of benefit to us to protect oldco debts and ensure continuity of collections."
"New trading vehicle – QCFS Ltd. (currently at Companies House under name Christopher Harvard (Properties) Ltd."
"2 x £25K PG [personal guarantees] (Richard Magson & Robert Scott)."
"Newco protects our existing debt and provides continuity of collect out.
Recommended on that basis."
"Q. Yes. Would it be fair to say that when you were having discussions with anyone, the primary concern inside your mind would be: make sure we collect out on the old Esdale debt.
A. It was one of the considerations to our mind, for sure.
Q. Sorry, if you just go back to page 286 in 8A
A. Yes.
Q. Do you see sort of about a third of the way down, the funding limit of 450 is marked across both Esdale Tooling and Newco.
A. Yes.
Q. Can you explain to me what that meant?
A. Meaning that, hopefully, the existing Esdale facility marked at 450 would reduce while the new company made new sales and therefore increased.
Q. So what you are actually saying is that between the old Esdale debt and QCFS –
A. Yes.
Q. – Bibby's exposure is not to go above 450,000.
A. Yes.
Q. So the only way QCFS gets any money is effectively as the old Esdale debt is reduced.
A. If the Esdale facility was fully drawn, which –
Q. If the Esdale facility was fully drawn. I think I have indicated to you a little while ago, we talked about it, it was probably rather overdrawn at this stage.
A. If that was the timing of it, yes.
Q. You are obviously very experienced in this. How long would you expect it to collect out the old Esdale facility, as at this stage?
A. We would track the debt turn, i.e. how many days it takes the customers to pay on average. We track that daily. You would take a view on that and maybe add another 20/30 days on top.
Q. Obviously you only tend to a fund for, I think Mr. Magson says, 120 days EOM [from the end of the month in which an invoice was raised].
A. That's correct.
Q. That obviously would mean that you would expect to be getting debts in within a three-month-ish period.
A. That would be realistic.
Q. So from your perspective, at this stage, you would be thinking: we ought to be collecting out the old Esdale facility –
A. Yes.
Q. – within three, maybe four, months.
A. I would say that is right."
"Personal Guarantee from:
Richard Magson limited to £25,000
Bob Scott limited to £25,000
Warranty from:
Richard Magson
Bob Scott."
"Are you around Wednesday [that is, the next day] to sign the rest of the documents [that is, other than those already sent as attachments to the e-mail sent to Mr. Scott on 20 August 2008] (and also lunch!)
Venue – happy to go with your call – London or whatever suits?"
"Would need to be late lunch say 3.00. For me, happy to work ropund [sic] venue. In leeds [sic] today and tomorrow am."
"40. At this meeting, Mr. Darling produced unbound hard copies of the documents he had emailed to myself and Mr. Scott on 20 August 2008 as referred to above, namely the Esdale cross guarantee, debenture and two sets of board minutes referred to at paragraph 36 above. However, each of these documents was, as before, in the wrong company name, i.e. CHPL [Harvard] rather than QCFS.
41. Mr. Darling also produced copies of additional unbound documents, that had not previously been emailed to me, namely (i) two copies of a recourse invoice discounting agreement between BIDL and CHPL, (ii) a personal guarantee granted by myself in favour of BIDL, (iii) a personal guarantee granted by Mr. Scott in favour of BIDL, (iv) two copies of a corporate guarantee granted by Saracen in favour of BIDL, (v) a warranty granted by myself in favour of BIDL and (vi) a warranty granted by Mr. Scott in favour of BIDL. I recall that each document was stapled at the top left-hand corner.
42. Finally, on the morning of 27 August 2008, Mr. Scott had received by post a letter … which set out the proposed terms of the new facility agreement (stapled on the top left corner) and enclosed BIDL's bound standard terms and conditions … The offer letter and the enclosed terms and conditions were in the correct name (i.e. addressed to QCFS, not CHPL). Although the letter was addressed to QCFS at its trading address, it was actually sent in an envelope to QCFS's registered address, which was Mr. Scott's office in London, in anticipation of the meeting. The reason for only these documents being prepared in the first instance in the correct name was because until the exact terms of the offers were agreed "in principle", there would be little point in finalising the full suite of documents. We were also having discussions around this time as to whether we might call QCFS "Esdales Limited" so, until this was sorted out, there would again be little point in rushing these through only to then have to do them all again.
43. Once the three of us sat down to go through the documents, it became clear that there were errors in many of them. These errors and the way in which we dealt with them are described below:
Recourse invoice discounting agreement
44. This agreement was stated to be between BIDL [Bibby ID] and CHPL. However, by this date (as I had informed Mr. Darling by phone previously as described above), CHPL's name had been changed to QCFS.
45. In addition, it had been agreed (in principle at least) that the terms of the new facility would, generally, be the same as those applied by BIDL in relation to Esdale, save for some minor variations.
46. At the meeting on 20 [sic – 27 was meant] August 2008, however, many of the terms of the draft agreement presented to us at this meeting were inconsistent with this. The table below sets out the terms of the original facility, i.e. the Esdale Agreement (the second column below), the third column detailing the terms actually in operation as between BIDL and Esdale, the fourth column being the terms set out in the draft agreement provided to us at the meeting and the final column sets out the terms which were agreed between Mr. Darling, Mr. Scott and I at inception of our discussions and which were further reiterated when we discussed the document on 27 August 2008.
[It is not necessary for the purposes of this judgment to reproduce the table included in paragraph 46 of the first witness statement of Mr. Magson. It is sufficient to identify the subject matter of the items set out:-
1. Concentration percentage – namely the percentage of the debts assigned to Bibby ID which could originate with a single customer of QCFS.
2. Minimum base rate to be adopted for the purposes of the Bibby ID Agreement.
3. Funding limit for the purposes of the agreement.
4. Whether timesheets needed to be produced by QCFS.
5. Whether management accounts were to be produced by QCFS.
6. Whether stage invoices were permitted to be raised by QCFS.
7. Whether debts arising from sale of capital assets could qualify for funding by Bibby ID.
8. Whether GA drawings were to be held by QCFS to the order of Bibby ID.
9. The length of the approval period.
10. Payment terms between QCFS and RUP.
11. Whether collection notes, rather than delivery notes, were acceptable to Bibby ID.]
47. These amendments were marked up on both of the two copies of the document itself. The recourse invoice discounting facility agreement itself (as opposed to its terms and conditions) is a fairly short, 7 page document (plus signature page(s)). I recollect that each change was marked up by Mr. Darling or myself and then initialled by myself, Mr. Scott and Mr. Darling on both copies.
48. Mr. Scott and I executed the signature page at the back of the marked up agreement referred to in paragraph 47 above on behalf of QCFS to show our intent to proceed with the new facility, despite the changes which needed to be made to the text and the fact that the execution page was in the wrong name (CHPL not QCFS). The agreement document was not signed by Mr. Darling on behalf of BIDL and was not dated or released to Bibby by QCFS. Mr. Darling assured me and Mr. Scott that the errors would be corrected on a new typed version of the body of the document, which could then be re-executed.
Personal guarantees
49. The personal guarantee documents covered BIDL's exposure up to £25,000 which as set out above had been agreed as directly linked to the termination fee on the old Esdale facility. However, they did not contain terms setting out either of the other two agreed limits, which as set out above were that the guarantees would expire on the earlier of collection-out of Esdale's debt to BIDL or 6 months. This amendment was noted on Schedule 4 to the guarantee and initialled by myself, Mr. Scott and Mr. Darling.
50. The personal guarantee documents covered BIDL's exposure up to £25,000 which as set out above had been agreed as directly linked to the termination fee on the old Esdale facility. However, they did not contain terms setting out the other agreed limits, which as set out above were that the guarantees would expire on the earlier of collection-out of Esdale's debt to BIDL or 6 months. This amendment was noted on Schedule 4 to the guarantee and initialled by myself, Mr. Scott and Mr. Darling.
51. As with the facility agreement, whilst Mr. Scott and I both signed the personal guarantees and had them witnessed by the barman at the public house, we did not date or release them to Bibby. Mr. Darling agreed that the errors would be corrected and a new version of the body of the text produced, and we all agreed that the documents would only be signed by Bibby and released once the errors had been corrected.
Corporate cross guarantee
52. The corporate cross guarantee relied upon by the Claimant should have stated (at page 5 – section 2) to expire on the earlier of collection out of Esdale's debt to BIDL or 6 months. The corporate cross guarantee also included QCFS's previous name, CHPL, in Schedule 3, and this needed amending. Schedule 2 of the corporate guarantee was also marked up in order to make Quay Consultancy a guarantor alongside Saracen because, as currently drafted, BIDL would only have had the benefit of a guarantee from QCFS's sister company, Saracen, as opposed to a more valuable guarantee from its holding company, Quay Consultancy (which it was also intended would acquire the Esdale equipment and did with BIDL's full knowledge and consent).
53. Relevant amendments were marked up by hand on the two copies of the unbound corporate cross guarantee document and initialled by both parties. Whilst it was signed on behalf of Saracen, it was not dated or released to Bibby. Mr. Darling agreed that the errors would be corrected, and we all agreed that the documents would then be re-executed by all parties (or by Quay Consultancy at a minimum) and would only then be signed on behalf of BIDL and released once the errors had been corrected.
Esdale cross guarantee
54. The cross guarantee to be granted by QCFS and Esdale in relation to each of their liabilities to BIDL should have stated (at page 5 – section 2) to expire on the collection out of Esdale's debt to BIDL. This cross guarantee also included QCFS's previous name, CHPL, in Schedule 3, and this needed amending. The guarantee was not limited in time as the purpose of this document was to protect BIDL upon a failure of the business at a time when the business and assets were moving between these two companies to the effect that BIDL would not be any worse off as a result of the business sale to QCFS. As neither Mr. Scott or I were providing a personal guarantee in this regard, there was no need to insert a quantum limit.
55. Relevant amendments were marked up by hand on the two copies of the unbound cross guarantee document and initialled by both parties. Whilst it was signed on behalf of CHPL, it was not dated or released to Bibby. Mr. Darling agreed that the errors would be corrected, and we all agreed that the documents would then be re-executed by all parties (or by Quay Consultancy at a minimum) and would only then be signed by BIDL and released once the errors had been corrected.
56. A copy of the Esdale cross guarantee referred to at paragraph 54 above (provided by the Claimant) appears at pages … This document appears to have been signed by Mr. Scott alone. I believe this must be one of the documents referred to at paragraph 37 above as it was only signed by Mr. Scott (as referred to in paragraph 27 above). Quay Consultancy only became a director of QCFS on 26 August 2008. It is interesting to note that this document has apparently been executed by BIDL and also dated (I assume by BIDL) on 22 September 2008 notwithstanding the fact that Esdale had already gone into administration on 18 September 2008.
Warranties
57. Errors were also apparent in the warranties. These also should have been stated (at page 2 – section 2.1) to expire on the earlier of collection out of Esdale's debt to BIDL or 6 months. It should also have been stated that each of Mr. Scott and my total liability under the personal guarantees and the warranties was limited to an aggregate upper limit of £25,000. The warranties also included QCFS's previous name, CHPL, in the definition of "client", and this needed amending.
58. As with the other documents, amendments were marked up, initialled by both parties on the unbound documents, and the warranties were signed but not released or dated. Mr. Darling agreed that the errors would be corrected, and we all agreed that the documents would be signed by BIDL and released once the errors had been corrected.
Documents emailed to me on 20 August 2008
59. Aside from the Esdale cross guarantee, which is dealt with above, there were also problems with all of the other documents emailed to me on 20 August 2008 … in that they contained the wrong company name, namely CHPL. Therefore, whilst we signed the unbound hardcopies at the meeting at BIDL's request, they were not dated or released, and it was therefore agreed that these would be revised by Mr. Darling with the correct name.
Offer letter
60. The offer letter which had been sent to Mr. Scott contained lists of the completion and operating requirements. We went through these together and marked them to confirm we would deal with them (many had not been previously discussed). We did not mark up all of the terms of the offer as set out in the letter itself, because the agreed terms had already been marked up in the recourse facility agreement and security documents themselves, as described above.
Terms and conditions
61. The bound terms and conditions were, as set out in paragraph 42 above, in the correct name. As the terms and conditions were in standard form, they did not need amending. Accordingly, Mr. Scott and I executed them on behalf of QCFS, although they were not executed on behalf of BIDL or released to Bibby at that time.
62. Mr. Scott and I were happy to sign all of these documents because the agreement of some form of funding arrangement was obviously crucial to the business. Bob Scott and I were therefore pleased that we had at least made some progress toward finalising the arrangements. At this stage there was no question in my mind about the terms of the arrangements, which had been discussed between myself and Mr. Darling on 20 August 2008 and further discussed, marked up and agreed by Mr. Darling, Mr. Scott and I together on 27 August 2008, and marked up in the text of the unbound documents.
63. As can be seen from the email from Mr. Darling on 26 August 2008 referred to above … setting up the meeting and suggesting lunch, and the fact we eventually met in a pub, Mr. Darling, Mr. Scott and I got on very well on a personal level and were relaxed in each other's company. This being so, I had no concerns when Mr. Darling took away the various sets of documents leaving me only with the marked up versions of the recourse facility agreement and the Saracen corporate cross guarantee (referred to at paragraph 52 above) – being out of the office, neither Mr. Scott nor I took copies of any of the other documents for our own records."
"I have seen and carefully read the unsigned but approved final witness statement of the First Defendant. It goes into great depth as to the formation and operation of the parties dealing with each other. I adopt entirely its contents and confirm that so far as the First Defendant's evidence makes direct reference to me it is true."
"14. I recall the First Defendant organising a meeting with him and Mr. Darling near my offices in Holborn to discuss what documents might be needed to be signed in support of the proposed facility for the Company. This meeting took place at The Old Nick public house on Sandland Street on 27 August 2008.
15. Prior to this meeting I made it clear to the First Defendant that I had no desire, or indeed intention, of signing any guarantees. My involvement in the Company was going to be minimal – occasional company secretarial work and the odd legal issue to deal with in return for a minor shareholding in the Company. I had, at this time, a significant shareholding in another client of mine who was utilising by that time a significant invoice discounting line from Coface (of many millions of pounds). I had explained to that client and to Coface that I would not be prepared to provide a personal guarantee. In that instance, both the client and Coface accepted the position. I was therefore not minded to offer security in return for such a small position being taken in the First Defendant's business.
16. Furthermore, I am a partner in a solicitors [sic] practice which takes up all my time and is my principal source of income. Quite properly, our bankers asked for and got a personal guarantee from me for the sums borrowed from time to time by the practice. In mid-2008, the firm had (in effect) acquired the business of the Surrey offices of DKLL LLP from its administrators which meant that the overdraft had extended considerably. I was therefore already sufficiently exposed by the time.
17. Accordingly, I made my reluctance to provide personal security clear to the First Defendant and also to Mr. Darling at the meeting. As I recall it, in conversations with the First Defendant prior to the meeting he was suggesting that I should not be concerned as any personal guarantee would be limited to £25,000 and that in any event it would be limited in time to the earlier of 6 months or collect out of the current ledger. I was confident that the company would collect out, so the risk to me – if I did execute a guarantee would be minimal.
18. We covered the above in the meeting. I relied on the assurance that the personal guarantee (and warranty) was so limited. In the event, there were numerous errors in the documents that Mr. Darling brought with him to the meeting. I signed the back pages of the documents notwithstanding many errors in the documentation but this was not an issue for me at that time as all the documents were to be taken away by Mr. Darling to be corrected (presumably to be signed afresh). In the meantime, we did not release the documents to the Claimant."
"8. The First Defendant accepts that an arrangement (the 'Arrangement') for the provision of invoice finance did occur between Bibby and the Company, as also agreed by the Defendants, however the terms asserted by the Claimant do not reflect the agreed terms between the Company and the Claimant or the agreements with any of the Defendants under any of the guarantees, indemnities or cross guarantees asserted by the Claimant.
9. Paragraph 4 and 5 of the Particulars of Claim are denied. The signature page of the Arrangement was initially signed on the 27th August 2008 but was neither dated nor released or delivered to Bibby. It was agreed by Bibby (acting by Andrew Darling) and the Company and all the Defendants on the 27th August 2008 that variations of the terms of the document needed to be applied before the Arrangement could be released and delivered. This has been repeatedly advised by the First Defendant both orally and in writing, to the Claimant prior to action.
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11. The Claimant dated the incorrect document without the provision of the amended agreed terms of the Arrangement. This error, either intentional or otherwise, was discovered by the First Defendant when a copy of the Arrangement was requested by the First Defendant in January 2009, and upon receipt Bibby were advised with immediate effect.
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14. The First Defendant denies paragraph 6 is a true reflection of the Arrangement. The agreed terms of the Arrangement differ from the terms of the invoice discounting agreement, guarantees, warranties and cross guarantees asserted by the Claimant in the following key respects:
[There followed 19 identified respects, largely mirroring the table in paragraph 46 of the first witness statement of Mr. Magson, but including, at 15.13, "The personal guarantee and indemnity (warranty) from each of the First & Second Defendants were to be limited to £25,000, and limited to the earlier of six months, or collection of the old liability of Esdale to Bibby"]
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19. The First Defendant entered into this guarantee on the 27th August 2008, in the presence of the other Defendants, Mr. Joshua Metzner (Witness) & Mr. Andrew Darling (Director – Bibby), on the express proviso that this 'security' would only apply for whichever was the earlier of 6 months or until collection of the previous liability of Esdale to Bibby. This liability has been repaid in full.
20. In accordance with the Arrangement the First Defendant and Bibby (acting by Andrew Darling) expressly agreed to vary the terms of this guarantee at the time of execution of the documentation and any other reliance apart from such amended terms and conditions is a mis-representation by the Claimant.
21. The First Defendant also refers to the executed offer letters on the facility which were initialled by Andrew Darling on behalf of Bibby and the First Defendant.
22. Andrew Darling as noted above was the sole party with whom discussions were held on behalf of the Claimant with respect to the Arrangement.
23. The First Defendant provided a copy of the initialled facility offer letter referred to in paragraph 21 in February 2009 at Bibby's request to Mr. Andrew Darling (Director), together with a copy of the incorrect legal documentation reflecting the incorrect terms, and Bibby then agreed again to raise the correct documentation to reflect the actual Arrangement.
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25. The guarantees were dated by Bibby not the First Defendant and without authorisation by the First Defendant and no originals or copies were provided to the First Defendant at the time of or following execution save as stated at paragraph 11 above.
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26. Paragraphs 16 – 20 of the Particulars of Claim have no relevance to the First Defendant but we refer the Claimant to the agreed terms of the Arrangement that the security provided by the Third Defendant was for a period of 6 months or until collection of the previous liability of Esdale to Bibby whichever was the earlier/later. In addition, the document was signed at the same meeting on the 27th August 2008 held between the [sic] Bibby but not dated/released or delivered by any of the Defendants.
27. The First Defendant entered into this indemnity [a Warranty] on the 27th August 2008, in the presence of the Defendants, Mr. Joshua Metzner (Witness) & Mr. Andrew Darling (Director – Bibby), on the express proviso that this 'security' would only apply for a period of, the earlier of, 6 months or until collection of the previous liability of Esdale to Bibby.
28. Section 15(2) of the particulars of the agreement, as asserted by the claimant clearly states that this is a combined liability with the guarantee document and the caveats placed in paragraph 28. No other reference to security is present in the particulars as agreed with Bibby.
29. The First Defendant varied the terms of the Arrangement as set out above with a director of the [sic] Bibby at the time of execution of the documentation and any other reliance on this documentation represents mis-representation by the Claimant.
30. Andrew Darling acting for Bibby as noted above was the sole party with whom discussions were held on behalf of the [sic] Bibby by the Defendants with respect to the Arrangement.
31. The First Defendant provided a copy of the initialled facility letter referred to in paragraph 22 in February 2009 at Bibby's request to Mr. Andrew Darling (Director), together with a copy of the incorrect legal documentation reflecting the incorrect terms, and Bibby again agreed to raise the correct documentation to reflect the actual Arrangement.
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33. The [sic] were dated by Bibby not the First Defendant and without authorisation by the first Defendant. No originals or copies were provided to the First Defendant at the time of or following execution save as stated in paragraph 11 above. "
"This document [his Warranty] was completed along with the personal guarantee, offer letter, and back page of the [Bibby ID] agreement on around 22nd August 2008, when the old business Esdale Tooling Limited was still in existence. This meeting was held in the local public establishment over lunch with Mr. Andrew Darling & Mr. Robert Scott attending, and we signed an offer letter marking up the changes all needed to be made to the documents at this time also initialled by ourselves. I wish to note we completed the back page of the other documents although inaccurate due to be amended with the correct terms from the offer letter to be replaced and completed prior to the commencement of the facility by your client, with the correct and agreed terms and conditions of the facility. Furthermore we then completed further documents as per the enclosed email on 8th September and I personally returned these to your client, and attended a meeting with Adrian Barrington and Tessa at your clients [sic] offices, whereby the documents were still being corrected at this stage, this was circa 8 days before commencement of the new facility.
As per the documents noted in clause 15.2 of your own alleged agreement clearly states that the indemnities were limited strictly to £25,000 and we refer you back to the offer letters initial [sic] by both parties and due to be changed by your client whereby they were only consented to by ourselves to remain only for the duration of the collection of the old facility or the initial 6 months. We had not been advised of this matter prior to the meeting with Mr. Darling in August, but consented to this on strict terms, due to the risks to your client at the time of the demise of the old business and a new facility being requested. I wish to note that on the Old Facility we had no security provided in the form of cross guarantees, personal guarantees and indemnities of any form, hence the requirement only for the initial 6 month period, and at no time was the terms and conditions provided to us."
"I refer you back to your client as you appear to have an incorrect representation of the facts, and I draw your attention to the agreement and the offer letter between both parties. The meeting held on or around the 28th August 2008 was held with Mr. Andrew Darling, Director of Bibby Financial Services Limited and the individual with whom all discussions on this matter were held. At this time the documents were executed as per my correspondence of the 25th May 2010. At no time did we date this document, and I have enclosed further email confirmation with Tessa Riley & Adrian Barrington on the documents we provided on the 8th September 2008. As a consequence, Your Client has dated these original documents as the 8th September 2008 and the 22nd September 2008, and this was contrary to our agreement we signed these as an act of good faith to enable the documentation to be amended accordingly, and no time dated these for execution, as the terms of the arrangement were to reflect the agreed amendments which was comparable to our existing facility on Esdale Tooling Limited."
"Q. So the very page that you say had said Christopher Harvard (Properties) Limited but in fact we can see it says QCFS Limited?
A. I will concede the fact that that says QCFS. Maybe that was one document that was correct and the others weren't. I cannot tell from that point of view. I thought I marked that up, however the document needed amending in full. It needed amending to changing to a limited guarantee. Maybe I didn't get to page 17. I only got to page 16 before we finished marking it up. "
"Q. If we go to paragraph 55 of your witness statement:
"Relevant amendments were marked up by hand on the two copies of the unbound cross guarantee document and initialled by both parties."
Which is correct? Is it correct, as you said in your evidence yesterday, that there were two copies of the Saracen document but only one copy of the cross guarantee? Or is it the case, as you say in your witness statement, that there were two copies of the unbound cross guarantee document?
A. The only two copies that I recollect that actually came from Mr. Darling which had come from Bibby were the Saracen plant hire and the Esdale – and the terms and conditions – sorry, the Esdale agreement. The terms and conditions compound with the letter. The offer letter. Mr. Scott printed off the documents on the 20th. I presume there would have been two copies Mr. Scott would have printed off.
Q. You see I was specifically asking you, at page 104, I was saying that you were suggesting that there were two copies of the cross guarantee which is the QCFS/Esdales cross guarantee. And you say: no, two copies of Saracen, two copies of the particulars from the invoice discounting agreement, but not the cross corporate guarantee, no.
So which is correct? Is that answer correct or is the evidence at paragraph 55 in the first sentence correct?
A. I believe there was two copies, however, of the Esdale's cross guarantee and that's my understanding when I was asked yesterday. However, they were printed by Mr. Scott. You will have to confirm that with him. I didn't sign that document."
"Q. …
What I suggest to you has happened here has been that these documents were executed on or about 22 August 2008 by Mr. Scott, with the stamp and were not executed at the pub?
A. There is no evidence either way to prove that is the case. All I can state from the documents was that Mr. Scott signed and dated documents whilst we were there, that they were ones that were printed off. The debenture he certainly wouldn't have signed until he actually spoke to me and on that understanding, he was signing documentation on that date. These have been printed off by Mr. Scott and brought to the meeting.
He states in his e-mail to me that he signed some; I believe that that was the initial board meeting. However, I don't know what extent he had signed unfortunately because I wasn't party to the attachment to that document.
Q. We will come back to these documents in a moment. But what I would like to do in order to show that you are wrong is to go to bundle 5 at page 67 and to invite you to look at the Saracen corporate guarantee. This is in the bundle at tab 5, page 111, and this was a document that you would agree was executed at the pub, wouldn't you?
A. Correct.
Q. If you go to page 130, we can see that this document is signed for Saracen Plant Hire Limited and could you tell us about the signature under "Director" where it says Key 2 Secretarial Limited?
A. The signature is by Mr. Scott and he's written "Key 2 Secretarial Limited". This document was provided to us on the time. I can only assume that his stamp maybe ran out of ink. It didn't have too much ink, it was one of the stamps where he used to put it in a piece of ink to do. I don't know from that point of view. But these were the pack of documents that I was then amending and annotating up and we passed them over. From my understanding and my recollection they were all signed at the time.
If a section of those documents had been signed previously that could have been the case. However, I wasn't party to that. I was just party to these documents being handed to me and Mr. Scott asking was it okay to execute this document.
Q. You are making this up about the ink, aren't you?
A. No, I am not.
Q. You don't have a recollection that it was running out of ink, do you?
A. I don't have a recollection of that. I don't know why Mr. Scott didn't use the stamp on this occasion.
Q. We don't see that it's faint, the ink, in the originals of the other documents that we looked at?
A. I can't answer that question. I didn't date – I didn't stamp it. Mr. Scott will have to answer that question.
Q. The reason why the others are stamped and this isn't stamped is because the others were executed at a different time; they were executed before the pub. This is executed at the time of the pub without the corporate stamp being in the pub?
A. All I know for a fact is that Mr. Scott was signing these documents and stamping them at the time in the pub. How many of these were done prior to that date, I'm afraid you will have to refer to Mr. Scott. I appreciate he had done some, as he stated in an e-mail. However, the attachment to that e-mail was not forwarded to myself. I don't know the content of that. Mr. Darling was on that e-mail I believe.
Q. So you appreciate that there were documents that were executed before the pub?
A. I don't know. No, they weren't executed and delivered. Mr. Scott had the documents, he said he signed some. He didn't say he has executed those documents. As a consequence, I must go off that. I wasn't party to that transaction as I have said.
Q. So is it the case that you don't have a recollection then that the debenture and that the cross guarantee of Esdale QCFS was signed at the pub?
A. My recollection is Mr. Scott signed some of the documents that had been provided to him previously. How much of those he had signed or whether he had stamped them and signed them or whether he just dated them in the pub I can't actually concur with. I wasn't the person who did that.
I had to sign the Esdale Tooling one, which he asked for my consent of. That's all I can actually reflect because that's what I was involved in at the time.
Q. So do you now withdraw your evidence that [you] gave earlier to the effect that the cross guarantee was executed at the pub?
A. No, I don't withdraw that at all. Mr. Scott stated he signed some. He didn't say he has executed the document and dated the document.
Q. Do you withdraw your evidence that those documents were signed at the pub, the cross guarantee of Esdale QCFS?
A. No, I don't. He signed some of those documents. Which ones I'm sorry, I'm not party to and my statement states "some" of the documents.
Q. Let's look at what your statement says. If we go to paragraph 40, please, so that's bundle 3, page 9:
"At this meeting Mr. Darling produced unbound copies of the documents he had e-mailed to myself and Mr. Scott on 20 August 2008 as referred to above, namely the Esdale cross guarantee, debenture and two sets of board minutes referred to in paragraph 36 above. However, each of these documents was as before in the wrong company name i.e. CHPL rather than QCFS."
On the basis that the cross guarantee had already been executed by Mr. Scott, or signed by Mr. Scott in the form that we have seen, there would be no purpose in having that redone on 27 August, would there?
A. Again, I don't know what was signed or what wasn't because Mr. Scott signed those documents. You will have to refer that to Mr. Scott. But that would make sense if that was the case.
Q. You would agree that if it had already been signed –
A. If that was the case.
Q. – there was no purpose in resigning it?
A. If that was the case.
Q. And you are not able to contradict that that was not the case?
A. All I know was that the documents handed to me by Mr. Darling to check I was okay with them, that's all, which is what I have stated.
Q. And the same would apply to the debenture, wouldn't it?
A. Mr. Scott I don't believe would have entered into the debenture without speaking to me. I remember him asking me was it okay to enter into this transaction. I agreed it at the time.
Q. If it had been signed before 27 August there was no point in having it resigned on 27 August?
A. There would have been no need on that assumption, yes, correct.
Q. If we go to paragraph 59 of your statement.
"Aside from the Esdale cross guarantee, which is dealt with above, there were also problems with all of the other documents e-mailed to me on 20 August 2008 in that they contained the wrong company name, namely CHPL. Therefore, whilst we signed the unbound hard copies at the meeting at BIDL's request, they were not dated or released and it was therefore agreed that these would be revised by Mr. Darling with the correct name."
Let me ask you this: assume that they had been already signed; you have accepted that there would be no purpose in signing them at the meeting?
A. If that assumption is correct, correct.
Q. And you don't remember, do you, if they were signed at the meeting?
A. I signed one of the documents, the Esdale Tooling document. The other documents that were provided to me, and I didn't sign them, I wasn't party to signing them. So correct."
"4. The Second Defendant admits paragraphs 4 to 6 (inclusive) of the Particulars of Claim to the extent that they properly replicate provisions in the documents relied upon by the Claimant. To the extent that the said documents are binding, the Second Defendant will refer to the documents at the trial of this Action for their full terms and true effect.
5. It is denied that the documents referred to in paragraphs 4 and 5 of the Particulars of Claim [the Bibby ID Agreement] are true and/or validly executed.
6. Further and/or alternatively, the said documents (whenever they were in fact generated) did not accurately record the terms agreed between the Claimant and the Company.
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8. Paragraph 10 of the Particulars of Claim [where the Guarantees were pleaded] is denied.
9. The document annexed at Schedule C of the Particulars of Claim [copies of the Guarantees] cannot have been and, in fact, was not executed on 22 September 2010 [sic – the date it bore was 22 September 2008].
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13. Prior to 27 August 2008 (as repeated on 27 August 2008), the Claimant represented to the Second Defendant that such security as they would seek from the Second Defendant would be limited for a period of the earlier of 6 months or the collection of all sums due to the Claimant in respect of a facility given to Esdale Tooling Limited ("Esdale") (from the collection of debts due from the customers of Esdale).
PARTICULARS
The Claimant, through its representative Mr. Andrew Darling, asserted to the Second Defendant on 27 August 2008 at the Old Nick public house on Sandland Street, London that the Claimant was in the process [of] collecting the Esdale ledger and;
1 that he just needed some paperwork to get the new facility for the Company in place;
2 that the paperwork would reflect the Letter of Offer, namely the [sic] "he would need a PG for £25K";
3 it would be ordinary "bog-standard" documentation;
4 that the security would be just until Esdale had "collected out" and in any event would lapse after 6 month [sic] (in the event that they did not collect out);
Hereinafter, ("the Representations").
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16. Induced by and in reliance upon the Representations (and the prior representations and assertions made by the First Defendant) on 27 August 2008 the Second Defendant signed the back page of a draft document. No opportunity was given to the Second Defendant to read and/or to study the said document, the Claimant's representative asserting that it was "all pretty standard".
17. By reason of the matters set out above (and in the event that the Guarantee is otherwise binding), the Second Defendant is entitled to rescind the Guarantee.
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19. Paragraph 21 of the Particulars of Claim [where the Warranties were pleaded] is denied.
20. The document annexed at Schedule E of the Particulars of Claim [copies of the Warranties] cannot have been and, in fact, was not executed on 22 September 2010 [sic].
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23. To the extent that the said Warranty is, on the face of it, valid, the Second Defendant denies that he is liable as alleged or at all.
24. By the Representations, the Claimant asserted that the Second Defendant's liability (in respect of the facility the Claimant was to give to the Company) was limited to £25,000; not an unlimited liability.
25. Further, to the extent that it is found that the Warranty was properly executed, it is denied that the document is a "standard" warranty. The Second Defendant will refer to the terms of the said document at the trial of this Action for its full terms and true effect."
"MR. FREEDMAN I will put it into the interrogatory. You say, "no opportunity was given to the second defendant to read and/or study the document"; isn't it the case that that can't be true because on the case that you are adopting it was studied and read in order to amend it?
A. Yes. Richard did it. Richard made all the amendments.
Q. You didn't make amendments, you just stood there like some dummy, did you?
A. I sat there.
Q. What, just drinking beer?
A. With Mr. Darling, yes.
Q. Despite that fact that you are the lawyer?
A. Yes, well, I wasn't wearing my lawyer's hat that day. I am a private investor on this occasion.
Q. So despite the fact that you have a superior legal knowledge to Mr. Magson, you are sitting there doing nothing while these amendments are taking place, is that it?
A. We are not doing nothing, we are chatting away about industry gossip, rugby, whatever, that kind of jovial correspondence. Bearing in mind Mr. Magson was late, as always, so Andy and I had been sat in the bar for at least an hour by then. Richard turned up, we went from where we were sat by the window, found a table, I produced the documents for Richard to have a look at and then he basically went through them and did his usual sort of mad annotation at high speed while Andy and the three of us were all chatting, in earshot of each other, but Richard has done the marking up.
Q. Was Richard given an opportunity to read and/or study the document?
A. In a sense. The critical items for him were the commercial aspects, which were the invoice discount and agreement terms and the offer letter to make sure it matched up with the invoice discounting agreement.
Q. I have to seek greater precision on that. You say "in a sense"; was he or was he not given an opportunity to read and study the document?
A. He was given an opportunity to read the documentation.
Q. If he was given an opportunity to read and study the documentation then you must have been given the same opportunity?
A. Not really, because he had the pile of documents, he was annotating, he was chatting and – not shouting out, but talking to the three of us, whilst Andy and I were enjoying ourselves, and saying "this needs to be changed, that needs to be changed". So I didn't need to look at the documentation. The only thing I was concerned about was the fact that it had to be limited in time and limited in value.
Q. So it was not that you were not given the opportunity to read and/or study, it was that you preferred to have jovial chat, rather than read and study the documents?
A. Yes, but you have to remember this wasn't a completion meeting, this is a – it is like a pathfinder meeting, some random documents came out of the blue from Andy's bag, we were nowhere near completion, we had at least three weeks in which to get the deal away, because the winding-up petition was not for way over a month. So this was just three mates getting together to see how we take this thing forward."
"MR. FREEDMAN: Could you now be provided with a copy of the personal guarantee you signed. (Handed).
Bundle 5, tab 69. Given that this personal guarantee was, on your case, amended and initialled, why did you not at the point of signature say "Signed, subject to amendments?
A. I did.
Q. Why did you not say, "Signed, subject to amendments"?
A. I did, I signed it. I haven't written it on because Andy was going to take it away, get it amended, and we were going to re-execute it. It wasn't finished, it wasn't dated, it wasn't delivered. This was all way in the beginning of the transaction. It's just a draft, it was a draft document.
Q. If it was a draft document why did you not say it was signed as a draft?
A. I did. I just didn't write it down.
Q. Why didn't you write it down?
A. Because I didn't. I was in a pub, in a friendly meeting, four pints in, with a guy I trusted, I've known him 15 years.
Q. What were the words that appeared in the amendment?
A. Richard changed schedule 4, so he put in "six months/collect-out".
Q. What about schedule 3?
A. 3, yes, he changed that to QCFS, because it was Christopher Harvard at that point.
Q. Did he just say six months or collect-out?
A. Near enough. It was annotated so that Andy would know when he took it back to Basingstoke, or so he could remember when he got back to Basingstoke, what the changes would have to be. Andy wasn't particularly aware whether the amendment would be by way of side letter or retyping the whole thing or whether a handwritten amendment would be fine or whatever.
Q. Presumably if it just said it in headline form, six months or collect-out, you would have expected in the final form for that to be put in the same type of formal language as you have in the rest of the document; is that right?
A. I personally was expecting a retyped version that would have legal language, if you like.
Q. So it would follow that you would want as a solicitor, as a person with a legal background, to see that revised wording to make sure you were comfortable with it?
A. Yes, but it never came back.
Q. I suggest to you that if that had been the arrangement then there was no point in you signing this document on 27 August in an unqualified form?
A. It was qualified. Yes, it could have gone back to Basingstoke unsigned, but Andy wanted it – remember this was the first time he'd got confirmation that in principle I would give a PG, albeit limited in time. This was the first time he'd got this, so to put it on his file effectively he'd quite like a signature; so we went through the process of signing it.
Q. Why, if this was simply a draft document, was the document witnessed?
A. Because Josh came over from the bar to our table at the time I was signing it.
Q. Does it not indicate, the fact that it was witnessed, that that showed that when you were signing it you were signing it in what you believed was the final form of the document?
A. No, not at all. This final form I thought would be tidied up. It had got the amendments that Richard had put on his, mine, so –
Q. So when the final form would come to you, you would then expect, would you not, to be re-signing the document?
A. Yes, probably – re-executing.
Q. And re-executing with a witness because it was a deed?
A. Yes.
Q. And until it was re-executed there was no guarantee, as far as you were concerned?
A. Correct.
Q. Therefore there was no point in signing this first document because it was just a draft?
A. For me there was no point. For Andy, it gave him something to take back to the team at Basingstoke.
Q. What I suggest to you is that you would not have gone through the lengths of signing it with a witness if it had been your intention at the time to treat this document simply as a draft?
A. It was just a coincidence that Josh came over to the table at the time. He was bringing our pints over.
Q. When barmen come to tables one does not, just because they happen to be there, get them to witness draft documents.
A. It was nothing more than the fact that Josh had come over, a guy I'd known for several years who had been at The Old Nick for a long time, and it was "Ha ha, come and sign this document." It had no legal effect, it was a draft. The most important thing were the amendments that Andy was going to take away back to Basingstoke and get the thing re-executed.
Q. If you could now be handed the warranty, please. That is the warranty that you signed. It is at tab 70 of bundle 5.
A. Yes, that's my signature.
Q. Where was the amendment to this document?
A. At the front, from recollection. Yes, the warranty bit, I think, and client. Client was down at that time as Christopher Harvard, so Richard crossed that out and put "QCFS" above it.
Q. Where was the amendment in respect of the warranty?
A. Next to the title in bold capitals with his sloping writing.
Q. It is again, is it, that it was just a telegrammatic amendment subject to it being put into legalese?
A. If you mean annotated shorthand, if you like –
Q. Yes.
A. – it wasn't a full – as a lawyer would put, it wasn't a full sentence or paragraph.
Q. So again you were expecting that that document would be put into formal legal language?
A. That's what I was expecting, yes.
Q. Then re-executed?
A. Yes.
Q. What was the point then in signing this document and having it witnessed at page 9 of the document?
A. It was Andy's insistence. I suppose, but this is complete speculation, he may have also thought that because we're all in three different locations and there was an existing winding-up petition, there may be some great urgency at some point. That's speculation.
It was certainly at Andy's insistence that he got something with a signature that he could take back to Basingstoke, bearing in mind it was only on that day that I'd agreed in principle to give any limited security.
Q. Was that document bound?
A. No, it was loose, tagged in the corner.
Q. And the guarantee was bound, was it?
A. No. Well, my recollection is that it was tagged in the corner.
Q. Do you have a recollection?
A. I do have a recollection. This was the important bit for me.
Q. So far as the invoice discounting agreement is concerned, if you look in the bundle please – perhaps you could be given the original of that at tab 72. Apparently that is with the other side. Could that be provided to you? In the bundle it is tab 72 at page 244. (Handed)
On the evidence of Mr. Magson, this document required re-execution?
A. Are you saying – what do you mean by – it required on the day re-execution? What do you mean by that question?
Q. I'm simply reciting his evidence which you have confirmed. It's paragraph 48 of his witness statement at page 13.
A. Which bundle again?
Q. Bundle 3, paragraph 48.
A. Bear with me, I'm trying to find it.
Q. Page 13.
A. I have the bundle. Which page?
Q. Page 13, paragraph 48:
"Mr. Scott and I executed the signature page at the back of the marked-up agreement to show our intent to proceed with the new facility. The agreement document was not signed by Mr. Darling on behalf of BIDL and was not dated or released to Bibby by QCFS. Mr. Darling assured me and Mr. Scott" –
A. I now understand your question.
Q. – "that the errors would be corrected on a new typed version of the body of the document that could then be re-executed?
A. I understand your question. Yes, that is correct.
Q. So it is correct. So what was the point then in executing this document given that another document was going to be re-executed?
A. Exactly the same as before: so Andy had something on his file.
Q. Is it the case that the amendments that were made were again summaries of the points rather than being put into a legal form?
A. Yes. This was the commercial – this is the commercial document that Richie in particular was keen on and he made a number of changes to it.
Q. These changes were going to be put into the formal language, were they, of the rest of the document?
A. Yes. Not the standard terms, they never change, but the particulars which change per transaction.
Q. Changes in the particulars?
A. Yes.
Q. So the way in which you left matters on 27 August was you expected that before any deal went through there would be brought back to you revised forms of which documents? Let us work out what the documents were.
So you have left the pub on 27 August and I just want to work out what are the documents that you are expecting to have to be revised.
First of all, there is your personal guarantee?
A. Yes.
Q. Secondly, there is the warranty?
A. Yes.
Q. Thirdly, there's the invoice discounting agreement?
A. Yes.
Q. Fourthly, there is the Saracen corporate guarantee?
A. Yes.
Q. There's the cross-guarantee of Esdales and QCFS?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. And what about the debenture? What happened to the debenture?
A. The debenture was fine as I recall it, other than –
Q. When was the debenture signed?
A. That must have been in the pub as well.
Q. How do you know?
A. Because I took all four documents down that I was e-mailed on 20 August to the pub, and I believe that was one of the four documents.
Q. How do you know the debenture was not done already, was not signed already? We saw that e-mail of yours with the attachments on the 26th which said "some"?
A. Yes, but "some" meant that they had been signed in the office and they were sat behind my chair on the shelf.
Q. How do we know that was the debenture?
A. Because, the recollection, if I'd said "all" then we'd have known that all four documents had been signed. "Some" means less than four. And the two documents I believe I signed were the simple administrative company secretarial-type documents which were the two board minutes.
Q. What amendments were made to the debenture at the meeting?
A. I can't recall.
Q. Were there any amendments to the debenture?
A. I am not sure there were."
"A. My recollection is that the board – the four documents came in on the 20th, so I printed off by the 22nd. Obviously I have done – I have completed the board minutes in readiness with the stamps, and then the two other documents I have taken down to the pub I might have stamped in the office, I might have taken the stamps with me. I don't understand why the Key [sic – in fact Quay] Consultancy and Financial Services stamp hasn't been used, because it's a really long name of a company, so I can't – all I recall is that the two more important documents I would have taken – I did take to the pub, because that required a lot more involvement with Richard, he was running the show, rather than board minutes which I can deal with as a sort of company secretarial item.
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Q. And you don't have an independent recollection, do you, of having in fact signed that document [the Cross Guarantee] at the pub?
A. I do. What happened was I printed off, probably on the 22nd, maybe on the 21st, the four documents. I put the stamp more than likely on the board minutes, put them in the usual pile behind my chair in the office, and the other two documents are more meaty, if you like, and of more interest to Richard.
So that would wait until Richard was next in the office to discuss, or what actually happened is that we had the meeting with Andy Darling, obviously Richard was late, it got adjourned to boardroom 2 and it was all done in there.
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Q. That the cross-guarantee, CHPL/Esdale, was signed on a different occasion from the Saracen corporate guarantee, and the proof of that is that had it been on the same occasion, the corporate stamp of Key 2 Secretarial would have been put on the Saracen guarantee as it is on the other company cross-guarantee?
A. It doesn't follow. A couple of explanations: I could have stamped it without signing it, and the thing that confuses me is why didn't I use the Key [sic] Consultancy and Financial Services stamp if I have used the other two stamps, if that was the case. So my recollection is that both these were signed at the pub."
"15. On 27 August, I attended a prearranged meeting at the Second Defendant's Key2Law offices in London. The First Defendant was late for the meeting and the Second Defendant suggested that he and I adjourn to his other office, meaning the The [sic] Old Nick Public House in Sandland Street London. The first Defendant joined us and I gave to the First and Second Defendant the Agreement between Bibby and QCFS Limited, the Guarantees, the Corporate Guarantee and Warranties. Each of the said documents were bound and presented to the First and Second Defendants in their entirety. I confirmed to the First and Second Defendants that the terms of the Agreement mirrored the proposed terms set out in the offer letter. The first and second Defendants signed the Agreement, the Guarantees, the Corporate Guarantee and Warranties and their signatures were witnessed by Joshua Metzner, the barman at the public house. The whole meeting only lasted half an hour or 40 minutes. I recall that I and the Second Defendant had a couple of beers. The First Defendant only had one beer as he was late arriving, there was no discussion about the terms of the Agreement themselves and after a light hearted conversation, once the documents had been signed, the meeting concluded. Everybody slapped each other on the back and left in a cordial manner.
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17. I deny that I and the First and Second Defendants discussed any variation of the terms of the Agreement or any of the other documents within this transaction on the 27 August 2008 or at any time prior thereto. I deny that the Agreement, Guarantees, Warranties or Corporate Guarantee was signed on a proviso that any terms of the same would be varied by Bibby. I did not initial the letter of offer at the meeting on 27 August 2008. The offer letter was not present, never discussed and never produced, it was not relevant. I deny that I represented at any time that the Warranties would be limited to £25,000 or that the Warranties, Guaranties [sic] or Corporate Guarantees would be limited for a period of the earlier of 6 months or the collection of all sums due to the Claimant in respect of the invoice discounting facility granted to Esdale.
18. On 27 August 2008, the Agreement, Guarantee, Warranty and Corporate Guarantee were not dated by the First and Second Defendants."
"5. I sent out, by email of 20 August 2008, documents to the First and Second Defendants for signature and return. A true copy of the email and enclosures can be seen at pages 102 to 173 of Exhibit 'RPM1' to the First Defendant's Witness Statement. There is now produced and shown to me marked "AD1" true copies of such of the originals of those documents held by the Claimant from its legal documents file for QCFS Limited [which were a photocopy of the Harvard Debenture, an original of the Cross Guarantee and an original of a resolution of Harvard].
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7. I recall that when I went to the office of the Second Defendant on the 27 August I collected the documents copies of which are exhibited at "AD1" prior to the meeting being adjourned to the Old Nick public house to await the arrival of Richard Magson.
8. Where at paragraph 38 Mr. Magson indicates that he called me indicating that the documents were in the wrong name and needed to be re-raised, he is mistaken I received no such call.
9. Where at paragraph 40 he states that I brought these documents to the meeting for signature in the pub, he is wrong I did not.
THE PUB DOCUMENTS
10. There is produced and shown to me marked "AD2" true copies of the originals of the documents signed at the pub copied from the Claimant's legal documents packet.
11. The execution of the documents took place as I have already described in my earlier witness statement. There was no manuscript amendment of any document nothing was initialled or countersigned by myself, Richard Magson or Bob Scott.
INVOICE DISCOUNTING AGREEMENT
12. Mr. Magson says that of the Invoice Discounting Agreement, pages 72 – 126 of "AD2", the execution page was in the wrong name. It was not, the page can be seen at page 126 of exhibit "AD2" hereto. I gave no assurance to the First Defendant or the Second Defendant that there were any errors on the document, that any error would be corrected and a new typed version of the body of the document would then be re-executed. None of this happened. There were not two prints of the document. We did not mark up both copies of such a document. Nor did we initial any amendments. The original only was produced and signed. Where Mr. Magson says the document was not signed by me on behalf of BIDL, I should point out that I am authorised to sign such documents, but our procedure is for legal documents to be returned to our office, checked and then signed off. I seldom sign off the legal documents as I am often out of the office.
PERSONAL GUARANTEES
13. At page 147 – 166 is a copy of the original of the Personal Guarantee signed by the First Defendant. At page 127 – 146 is a copy of the original Personal Guarantee signed by the Second Defendant. The Guarantees are in respect of QCFS as can be seen from pages 164 and 187 respectively. No amendment was necessary and no amendment was noted on Schedule 4 and nothing was initialled by myself and Mr. Scott or Richard Magson to either document. Neither the First or Second Defendant has ever said to me that the liability of the Defendants under these documents should be limited to expire on the collect out by the Claimant of the book debts of Esdale Tooling Limited ("Esdale") or 6 months whichever is the earlier.
CORPORATE GUARANTEE OF SARACEN
14. No amendments were needed to the Corporate Guarantee page 167 – 188 as described and nothing was marked up and initialled. Where the First Defendant says that the Corporate Guarantee also included QCFS's previous name, CHPL in Schedule 3, this is incorrect. Nothing was said by either Defendant at the meeting on 27 August or before or after to me about the liability expiring on the collect out of the Esdale debt or 6 months whichever is the earlier.
CHRISTOPHER HARVARD (PROPERTIES) LIMITED – ESDALE TOOLING CROSS GUARANTEE
16. This document, page 50 – 71of "AD1", was not signed in the pub. In his Witness Statement Mr. Magson suggests that this document should have stated, at page 5 of section 2 page 58 of "AD1", that it was to expire on the collect out of Esdale's debt, this is not true.
17. This document was not present at the pub, and there was no discussion about it whatsoever, had Richard Magson or Bob Scott suggested to me that the Cross Guarantee be limited until the collect out of the Esdale's debt I would have seen no reason for any alteration to the document. It should be remembered that Esdale was proceeding into Administration and was insolvent, its business to be sold to QCFS Limited. Once Esdale's book debts had been collected out QCFS Limited could have no liability. It was never expected, nor could it have been thought, that Esdale would ever be in a position to pay anything under its Cross Guarantee. It follows to my mind that the amendment to which Richard Magson speaks had it been put to me (which it was not) was unnecessary in the circumstances.
18. There was no execution of this document in the pub. It had already been signed off, I believe I collected it before the meeting.
WARRANTIES
19. It is said by Richard Magson that the warranties were to be limited to the collect out of the Esdale debt or 6 months whichever was the earlier but also Richard Magson adds that the total liability under the personal guarantee and the warranties was limited to an aggregate upper limit of £25,000. No such conversation took place, had it done so I would have informed both Magson and Scott that a Warranty was needed to support the book debt being sold to the Claimant by QCFS Limited against fraud. These warranties are commonly known in the Factoring and Discounting industry as fraud warranties as they come into play where there is deceit or dishonesty on the part of the company or the warrantors. Both Bob Scott and Richard Magson would understand this from their industry experience. Whilst it was not said it would not have been acceptable to the Claimant to limit the warranties on the QCFS Limited debt to expire on the collect out of the previous failed company's ledger and/or 6 months. Whilst collect out of Esdale Tooling Limited's book debt may not happen, 6 months will certainly pass which means the document creates no protection against deceit or dishonesty at all.
20. If the liability under the Guarantee and Warranty is aggregate to an upper limit of £25,000 there would be no point whatsoever in taking in a Warranty where the same sum is covered under a personal guarantee. In simple terms, if the guarantee and warranty were to be aggregate the warranty becomes redundant as unnecessary.
21. No amendment or marking up of the warranties took place, nor was it initialled by any parties of the meeting, the documents were simply signed as I have already stated.
22. At paragraph 59 Richard Magson says that the documents emailed to him on 20 August were signed in the pub. They were not."
"MR. ALEXANDER: Mr. Darling, what you collected were documents which had been emailed through previously, isn't that right?
A. Yes.
Q. In AD1, which I will do by reference to the numbers in the exhibit itself, at pages 1 to 2 is the certified resolution of CHPL, so that is a two-page document.
A. Yes.
Q. At pages 3 through to 49 of the exhibit is the debenture.
A. Okay.
Q. At pages 50 to 71 is the corporate guarantee.
A. Okay.
Q. None of these documents were bound at the time when you collected them, were they?
A. No.
Q. The third of those documents is the corporate guarantee, the third of the ones we have just been talking about. I have the original and it's bound now, isn't it?
A. It is, if that is the original.
Q. Perhaps I can pass it to you and you can have a look at it. (Handed). So it was not bound on the day you collected it, but it has been bound since.
A. Correct."
"Q. Can I just ask you: the 20th August documents?
A. The email documents, yes.
Q. Yes. You say they weren't in the pub at all?
A. They were in my bag in the pub but –
Q. They were in your bag?
A. They weren't on display. Yes.
Q. Okay. So you had a bag with you, into which you put the documents from Mr. Scott's. So they were in the pub, they were available to be discussed if that was what was wanted.
A. Yes.
Q. But you just say they never came out.
A. Never came out."
"A. This one I have here is Mr. Magson's warranty.
Q. Mr. Magson's warranty?
A. Yes.
Q. He seems to have a different pen here, doesn't he?
A. He does, signed in blue.
Q. So what is he doing? You say they just sat down and did a signing ceremony, and suddenly in the middle of the signing ceremony Mr. Magson switches pens?
A. These need to be witnessed, so it's conceivable he got another pen when he went to the bar to have that witnessed.
Q. It's pretty odd, though, isn't it?
A. I wouldn't say so.
Q. What I would suggest to you it's consistent with is that this meeting went on much longer than you say. You were sitting around the table, you were going through the documents; is that not right?
A. No, not at all.
Q. You didn't do that?
A. No.
Q. Then we go to Mr. Magson's guarantee. (Handed). That seems to be in the same pen as the original –
A. Yes.
Q. –stuff [sic], doesn't it?
A. Yes.
Q. What we have clearly got in relation to these documents is a situation where, in the middle of executing all these documents, if your version is to be believed, which is just basically a signing ceremony, Mr. Magson changes pens.
A. That is obviously what he did. It was a simple –
Q. I suggest to you that is just not very logical, is it?
A. It's what happened.
Q. You remember that happening?
A. No, but clearly it was what happened."
"Q. Do you have any clear recollection of the actual signing process?
A. No. No, to be honest, my Lord, no.
Q. Some of these documents needed to be signed by Mr. Magson, some by Mr. Scott and some by both of them.
A. Yes.
Q. Do you remember that there was, for example, a selection of which needed to be signed by which, so that you might have had three piles?
A. They would have just been presented in bulk and the guys would have split them up as required for signing.
Q. Do you have a picture of, as it were, Mr. Magson and Mr. Scott signing, with pens poised, as documents went from one to the other, or anything like that?
A. I just don't recall.
Q. It does seem a funny thing that at one point Mr. Magson seems to have changed pens.
A. As I say, I think that document needed an independent witness, so I presume Mr. Magson moved from the table to have that done, and conceivably could have used the barman's pen.
Q. I don't know whether we have yet got to it, but there were two documents that needed to be witnessed, were there not?
A. Yes.
Q. The warranty and the guarantee.
A. Yes.
Q. Can you tell me whether the guarantee is signed by Mr. Magson in a blue pen or a black pen, or haven't you got there yet?
A. It's in a black pen.
Q. So he signed one document needing a witness in a black pen and the other document needing a witness in a blue pen, is that it?
A. It appears to be the case.
Q. Right. Do you have Mr. Scott's guarantee and warranty there?
A. I do, my Lord.
…
Q. So Mr. Scott signed each of these in black and Mr. Metzner has witnessed in blue."
"Q. This is a document which you have said, and confirmed again, was not in the pub; correct?
A. Correct.
Q. It was a document which Mr. Magson had not seen prior to the meeting.
A. As I understand it, yes.
Q. It was a document to which you referred and said that the documents you were asking them to execute mirrored what was in the offer letter.
A. As would be the case.
Q. You say that Mr. Magson didn't say, "Well, I would quite like to see the offer letter".
A. He didn't say that.
Q. And he didn't see the offer letter, you say, in the pub.
A. No.
Q. If you go to the copy of the letter at 8A/279. Do you have that, the offer letter?
A. Yes.
Q. This document has plainly been marked up, hasn't it?
A. This photocopy, yes, has the marks against various bits. Yes.
Q. Do you know whose handwriting that it is?
A. It looks like Mr. Magson's.
Q. I have already referred you to the fact that in his witness statement what he said was that you went through the lists of the completion and operating requirements, together, and he marked them "to confirm that we would deal with them".
A. No.
Q. If you just have a look at the markings, would you accept that the way in which the markings appear on here is entirely consistent with there having been a discussion about this letter in the pub between you, Mr. Scott and Mr. Magson?
A. They look entirely consistent with somebody going through it and looking at each condition bit by bit, but at what venue and with whom, I don't know.
Q. I suggest to you that what happened was you did go through this letter and Mr. Magson made these markings whilst you were going through it in the pub.
A. No.
Q. I suggest to you that, contrary to what you have said, the offer letter plainly was in the pub.
A. No."
"Q. It has Mr. Magson's manuscript on it in original form. How has Bibby got that if this wasn't done at that meeting?
A. He would have sent that back to us.
Q. Why?
A. For the sake of completeness.
Q. Mr. Darling, I suggest to you that this [is] ridiculous. This offer letter was plainly in the pub that day.
A. No.
Q. Mr. Magson is absolutely right about that. He made these markings in that pub with the same pen with which he signed one of the documents, and you took this document away and added it to the Bibby file, whatever is there, and that's why Bibby have still now got it with Mr. Magson's original pen on it, isn't it?
A. Not the case.
Q. So you say that Mr. Magson must have marked this up, this offer letter, some time after the meeting. Because, on your version, he hasn't seen the offer letter, and there is no evidence of how the offer letter ever got to him, but at some stage after the meeting he went and got himself a copy of the offer letter, he marked it up and then, for completeness, he returned it to Bibby for no apparent reason.
A. He obviously returned it to us at some stage.
Q. In the pub –
A. No.
Q. – Mr. Darling.
A. No.
Q. [by the court, as were the other remaining questions quoted in this passage] Is there anything else, so far as you know, on your file associated with this copy of the offer letter which appears to have Mr. Magson's markings on it? Was there, for example, a covering letter?
A. No cover letter, no.
Q. Or a compliments slip?
A. It wouldn't be usual, my Lord, for anything like that to go out with it.
Q. This is being received back by you, you see.
A. Oh, in that sense? No. No, we have nothing to show that that had been received back by us.
Q. So it's simply on your file alone, so far as you know.
A. Insofar as I am aware."
"I confirm that I have had the opportunity to seek legal advice in respect of the guarantee to be granted by me in favour of Bibby Financial Services Limited (acting as security trustee) in respect of the liabilities of QCFS Limited ("Client") to Bibby Financial Services Limited and other members of the Bibby Group from time to time. I understand the nature of the guarantee and the consequences of entering into it and therefore have elected not to obtain legal advice in respect of it."
"Because that was a document prepared in anticipation of completion, the PG was still being amended, retyped, so it was all heading towards a completion date when the administration would be put in place and the pre-pack would go through. So it is in readiness, if you like."
"We need to print, send back and sign tonight. Then also do on quay … Their debenture was rejected by companies she [sic – house was intended]"
"Thanks for your help, please see below … The fees for the collection should be takeable to income by the end of October, I will advise once I have completed the reconciliation for next months collections with Really Useful products.
Thanks boss, and resolving state and signing docs with Bob in London on Monday afternoon if you fancy a coffee, or jar."
"As we stated and agreed, can i have an email just to confirm, we are not on the hook for the CG with regards to fees, other than the £25K, and the second £25K to go to the administrators, rest is your own. Obviously that £25K will need to be added to the £62K, with potential for this amount collectable."
"Tried to get Martin this morning, but can you both look at the following, this would have a significant effect and is charges on the account. The base rate as per your file and interest rate is 2.5% over bank base rate, yet in November period end this is still at 7.5%.
On 08 October 2008, bank rate was 4.5%, then 4th November 3.0%, then 6th December 2.0%, yet today this is still showing as 7.5% on our account, can you advise as this is contrary to my understanding.
We can deal with after xmas if easier, but had time to look at this aspect along with other bits as workload is slowing down for xmas. Will leave the oldco fee charges, but thought worth mentioning."
"85. At the beginning of January 2009 I phoned Ms Stainer to ask again for copies of all of the contractual documentation. Ms Stainer told me that these were still with the new business team (i.e. Tessa Riley and her colleagues) but that copies would be provided shortly.
86. On 23 January 2009, I received an email from Ms Stainer forwarding an email from Ms Riley asking for our certificate of incorporation for her file… I discussed this with Mr. Scott on 28 January 2009 and organised to collect the certificate from him … On Friday 30 January 2009 I collected the certificate from Mr. Scott. I then visited BIDL's Basingstoke office and gave it to Ms Stainer together with some other documentation BIDL has asked me for.
87. On 3 February 2009 I finally received by post at QCFS's office in Wakefield the recourse facility agreement between QCFS and BIDL and the standard terms and conditions. These were incorporated into a single bound document. The recourse facility agreement itself was in the form now appended to the Particulars of Claim – not as signed by me at the meeting on 27 August 2008. It arrived in an envelope with a compliment slip. It appeared that BIDL had combined the recourse facility agreement (which had only been executed in the name of CHPL) and the terms and conditions, removed the execution page from the recourse facility agreement and included a new front page in the name of QCFS, not CHPL, but had failed to include any of the other changes agreed and marked up on 27 August 2008. It also appears that they had simply inserted the signed signature page from the standard terms and conditions, (which had been signed in the name of QCFS as per paragraph 61 above) at the back as if applicable to both documents.
88. Following receipt, on 3 February 2009, I immediately telephoned Mr. Darling and discussed setting up a meeting to finalise the documentation, including the facility agreement and the personal and corporate guarantees. Mr. Darling said that Mr. Scott and I should visit their Basingstoke office the following day. However, late on the evening of 3 February 2009 Mr. Ellison rang and asked to delay the meeting because he would not be visiting the Basingstoke office that week, due to the snow and an internal audit.
89. At 08:35 on 4 February 2009 I emailed Mr. Darling and Mr. Ellison to confirm this … My email [a copy of which was adduced in evidence] stated that the purpose of the meeting was to:
"…go over the likely scenarios for the heckmondwike business [i.e. QCFS] and the options and also to finalise the correct terms as per the original offer letters agreed between ourselves and AD [i.e. Andrew Darling], which appear slightly contrary to the recent legal documentation that has been supplied, when a copy was requested."
90. This was a reference to the terms as agreed with Mr. Darling in August 2008 and the version of the recourse facility agreement and terms and conditions which I had received by post, which did not show the correct terms of the agreement.
91. On 5 February 2009, I received an email from Mr. Ellison asking me for a breakdown of expected payments from a variety of Esdale customers … He said that he needed this for the internal audit (which he had told me was one of the reasons why he had delayed our meeting about correcting the agreements).
92. On 16 February 2009 I emailed Mr. Ellison and Ms Stainer to tell them that Key2Directors Limited, which was the company secretary of QCFS until this time, had effectively resigned as secretary of QCFS with effect on that date … Around this time I discussed finalising the contracts again with Mr. Ellison. Mr. Ellison told me that BIDL could not locate the versions of the contracts marked up by Mr. Darling, Mr. Scott and I on 27 August 2008. I therefore agreed to give BIDL my copies of the only amended agreements in my possession, namely the annotated, unbound recourse facility agreement and corporate cross guarantee (which were the only documents produced in duplicate at Mr. Scott and my meeting with Mr. Darling on 27 August 2008 (as per paragraph 41 and 63 above) in order to assist them in raising correct new agreements.
93. On 17 February 2009, I tried to make contact with Mr. Ellison in order to arrange a time for a meeting to discuss post-dated cheques and the amended agreements …
94. On 24 February 2009, first thing in the morning, I visited BIDL's office in Basingstoke, I delivered various items of documentation which Mr. Ellison had requested. This included the unbound recourse facility agreement and corporate cross guarantee referred to in paragraph 92 above. I also returned the incorrect bound recourse facility agreement and terms and conditions which I had received by post as described in paragraph 87 above. When I dropped these off I saw Mr. Darling who also expressed surprise that this documentation had not been finalised.
95. I kept copies of these two documents for my own records, while I then no longer had the original marked up copies of the recourse facility agreement and corporate cross guarantee referred to in paragraph 92 above, by scanning and emailing these to my account on the Esdale Microsoft Exchange server. I no longer have access to the Esdale server because Tenon took over possession of this server on appointment in September 2008 and, I understand, wiped the server before selling the business."
"At paragraph 94 Mr. Magson suggests that he attended the Claimant's Basingstoke office on 24 February and dropped in certain documents and met with me and we had a conversation to the effect that I was surprised that the documentation had still not been finalised. So far as I am concerned Mr. Magson did not attend the Claimant's office on 24 February. I certainly did not meet him and I certainly did not have the conversation he alleges."
"Further, I understand that Mr. Darling denies me ever attending Bibby's Basingstoke office as set out at paragraph 94 of my statement. He is wrong.
21.1 I attended Bibby's Basingstoke offices on the morning of 24 February 2009. I brought with me an A4 size envelope containing the various items of documentation that Mr. Ellison had requested, which would have been marked for his attention or his and Ms Stainer's attention. I also had a smaller white envelope containing RUP cheques it being quite usual for Bibby's customers such as myself to attend its offices to drop off cheques.
21.2 I rang the bell on the office door as it was locked at this time. I gave the envelope with the cheques to the person who answered the door and enquired as to whether Mr. Darling was around. I did not expect to find Mr. Ellison there as he only attended the Basingstoke office one or two days per week but Mr. Darling worked from this location permanently (being the office head at the time together with Adrian Barrington). As Mr. Darling was around I was let in and I popped over to Mr. Darling's office, said hello and (as is also set out at paragraph 12 of my Defence), I gave Mr. Darling the envelope containing the documents requested by Mr. Ellison. As stated in my first statement, Mr. Darling expressed surprise that the amendments to the documents still had not been done and that he would pass these to Mr. Ellison as he should have resolved this issue by then."
"Q. …
Then Mr. Magson says at paragraphs 94 to 95 that on 24th February, first thing in the morning, he visited Bibby's office in Basingstoke. He says he delivered various items of documentation which Mr. Ellison had requested. This included the unbound copies of those two documents. And he says that when he dropped these off, he saw you. Did he see you?
A. I don't recall.
Q. You don't recall it. He says that you expressed surprise that the documentation hadn't still been finalised. Do you recollect doing that?
A. Not at all, no.
Q. Then if you go to paragraph 21of Magson 2, Mr. Magson's second witness statement, which you will find in a separate bundle. Mr. Magson says that he understands that you deny that he ever attended Bibby's Basingstoke office on 24th February.
A. I just don't recall that.
Q. You just don't recall. So it's not a question of you saying it didn't happen, you just don't remember it.
A. I don't remember it.
Q. You don't remember it. Okay. He says that he attended the offices on the morning of the 24th February. He brought with him an A4-sized envelope containing the various items of the documentation that Mr. Ellison had requested, which would have been marked for his attention, or his and Ms Stainer's attention. He also says he had a smaller white envelope containing RUP cheques, it being quite usual for Bibby customers such as himself to attend to the offices to drop off cheques.
A. It's not uncommon.
Q. Not uncommon?
A. Richard was probably the main one that did that, but it has happened, yes.
Q. He says that he rang the bell on the office door as it was locked. Is that …?
A. That would be usual.
Q. He says he gave the envelope with the cheques to the person who answered the door, and enquired as to whether you were around. He said he didn't expect to find Mr. Ellison there. Well, that is obvious, because he was in all likelihood in Manchester.
A. Yes.
Q. He says because he attended the Basingstoke office one to two days per week. Yours was one to two days a month. But you worked from this location permanently: correct?
A. Yes, but I am not always in the office. I have –
Q. Okay. That was the head office?
A. That is Bibby Invoice Discounting's office, yes.
Q. He says that:
"As Mr. Darling was around, I was let in and popped over to Mr. Darling's office."
How far we [sic] he have to go? How big is this place?
A. Not that big. You are probably talking about 20/25 yards to get to my office from the main door.
Q. He says he said hello to you and gave you the envelope containing the documents requested by Mr. Ellison.
A. I don't recall that.
Q. You don't remember that?
A. No.
Q. It could have happened but you just don't remember?
A. I just don't remember it."
"Mr. Barrington was replaced by Eileen Creely as temporary Operations Director. I understood from Mr. Ellison that Ms Creely was appointed at the request of BIDL's own funder due to internal issues. As a result, BIDL's procedures for payment under the facility changed to be more stringent. At the end of May, Ms Creely came to visit QCFS's premises in Wakefield, together with Mr. Ellison. I showed them the factory and explained how the business worked. During the visit, I raised with Ms Creely the fact that the recourse facility and other contractual documents still needed to be finalised and she said that she was aware of the position. Admittedly, this was not a lengthy discussion: I was focused on getting Ms Creely comfortable with QCFS's business in order to secure BIDL's continued support going forward."
"3. At the relevant time I was Group Risk and Operations Manager for the Claimant and held the role of Interim Managing Director at Bibby Invoice Discounting in Basingstoke. Whilst at Basingstoke in February 2009 I met Richard Magson at the door of our office when he called to deliver a cheque. We had a conversation about the debtor.
4. Towards the end of May I visited the premises of QCFS Limited in Yorkshire together with Martin Ellison. The purpose of the visit was to follow up on some audit issues. At no time during the visit was there any conversation with Richard Magson or anyone else about the legal documentation supporting the invoice discounting facility he certainly did not say to me that the recourse facility and other contractual documents still needed to be finalised and I did not say that I was aware of the position.
5. During my time as Interim Managing Director I was never aware there was any issue whatsoever with the legal documentation and no one ever discussed with me or told me that there were any issues whatsoever."
"Q. I mentioned to you a minute ago that Mr. Magson says that during the visit which you had with him, he says that he raised with you the fact that the facility and other documents needed finalising, and you said you knew about that. As I said to you, to be fair to him he doesn't put this like this was a major part of the discussion between the two of you, he makes it perfectly plain that the whole meeting was focused on getting you comfortable with the QCFS business.
Now, I think you say that the conversation did not take place?
A. I have no recollection of any conversation about the legal documents.
Q. You have no recollection of such a conversation?
A. I have no memory of that taking place at that meeting.
Q. You have no –
A. Or any meeting.
Q. I understand I understand that, you don't remember such a conversation having taken place.
A. No.
Q. It's possible it could, isn't it?
A. Well, if I thought there was something wrong with the documentation, we would have had to do something about it and I would have had to sort out with the client, freeze the account or something, to make sure it was right.
That is why I think if it had been raised, with me at that meeting it would have registered and I would have done something about it.
Q. I can totally understand the logic of why you say that. Totally understand the logic of that. What I would just like to get to is you don't remember such a conversation?
A. No.
Q. But can you categorically say that conversation never took place during the course of an hour long meeting, that something was raised?
A. Not that I heard. I did not hear anything about documentation.
Q. Right. I suggest to you that it did happen and that what has actually happened is that you just don't remember that bit of conversation. Is that possible?
A. I don't think that that is what happened."
The Invoices and the Credit Notes - preliminaries
"Finally, Mr. Brown confirmed that he would be unavailable during the trial window because he is on annual leave. Reference is made to Exhibit LAS8 page 4."
"I confirm that this email may be included in the written evidence which will be placed in court and I am unable to attend because I go on holiday from the 7th July 2011 for 8 calendar days."
"Mr. Magson, increased the overheads way beyond what the business could afford, this included leasing a dozen or more vehicles, increased salaries, capital repayments on machines being re-financed and factoring charges. There was also large amounts of money being transferred to Key2Law for something known as "Barclays Fee earner". Mr. Magson also frequently withdrew large amounts of cash for his own personal use, which also adding to the business's woes. Much of the time QCFS was trading; in my opinion, it was making heavy losses and it could not service its debt."
"Q. It is and she has recorded that you were not able to assist the auditor on queries.
A. Yes, but there is a reason for that and that reason is because he hadn't paid any pay as you earn for the life of the business. His VAT returns were decidedly dodgy and he had taken out £142,000 of cash at the ATM machine. He had also transferred £77,000 to his holding company and he had also transferred £33,000 to Key 2 Law's bank account and she was asking me about those transactions, so I decided to answer and said, "You need to speak to Richard".
Q. All those points you have just made are not relevant to the question of whether – the issue in these proceedings in relation to the relevant invoices, are they? They are conduct that you do not approve of in relation to Mr. Magson, are they not?
A. Well the reason why I wasn't – there is only one reason why I wouldn't answer the questions. There was only one reason why I wouldn't answer the questions and that's because it wasn't my mess. The business was in a calamitous state and it wasn't my mess and I thought that rather than – I mean I was in a very tricky position because if I had have just – I don't tell lies. I tell it as it is, so the reason – I could have either lied for him or I could have let him answer it himself and I chose to let him answer it himself.
By the way, he lied and said – and told Bibby at a later date that his holding company had paid all the pay as you earn and that was a blatant lie because it hadn't. He didn't pay any pay as you earn for the life of the business, apart from £18,500 and as at admin he owed £244,000.
Q. Now the note –
A. As well as £2 million to everybody else.
Q. Now the note there you see there says that, she records that
"He was not able to assist on queries"
Do you see that?
A. That's correct because I wasn't going to answer questions on fictitious invoices. The ledger had about 75 per cent of just total fictitious invoices in it so why would I want to answer those questions? Because I don't tell lies so I left it with Richard to explain it."
Date | Addressee | Number | Amount(£) |
1.9.09 | Birkby | 1695 | c -9,890.00 |
14.9.09 | RUP | 2413 | 10,884.75 |
15.9.09 | RUP | 2414 | 17,267.25 |
29.9.09 | Thermotec | 2438D | 26,795.00 |
29.9.09 | Thermotec | 2439D | 29,976.67 |
29.10.09 | RUP | 2480 | 28,152.00 |
16.12.09 | Hallam Castings | 2550 | 7,093.09 |
20.1.10 | Birkby | 25540 | 10,505.57 |
25.2.10 | Hallam Plastics | 2639 | -6,974.80 |
28.2.10 | RUP | 2669 | 19,975.00 |
11.3.10 | Hallam Castings | 2670 | 23,480.42 |
12.3.10 | RUP | 2671 | 18,249.99 |
16.3.10 | RUP | 2673 | 127.01 |
7.4.10 | Taylor | 2689 | 9,987.50 |
7.4.10 | Taylor | 2690 | 4,112.50 |
"I would make verification calls to the debtors of our clients and that would be to call up their debtors, just confirm receipt of invoices, confirm if the invoices were approved for payment and to check with them bank details that they had to make payment to."
"Q. Was your only job at that stage basically making verification calls on behalf of Bibby?
A. It was, yes.
Q. Was that their only job as well, the other three?
A. Yes. Lisa Watts was line manager for the other three.
Q. So is it fair to say that basically Lisa Watts was the boss and the other three of you worked for her?
A. Yes.
Q. Just picture yourself sitting at your desk and doing that job.
How do you know who to ring up?
A. I would have a – it would either have been – before it gets disclosed [that is, the fact of assignment of the debt disclosed to the debtor, which did not happen in the present case, at least not at a time relevant to this point], it would be, we would have a ledger, a detailed aged debt report, that we would go through once every quarter to each client and pick out the top 15 I think it was, might possibly be top 20 now, I don't know and go through and ring the debtors.
We would keep track of what we were doing on a spreadsheet on the system but when it goes over to disclosed, it would be on our C3 system.
Q. Can we stick with the confidential one at the moment, not the disclosed one?
A. Okay.
Q. You said what you do is you would get an aged debtors list; is that right?
A. Yes.
Q. You would look at that and you would look at the 15 biggest?
A. We would normally pick top ten and then some randoms.
Q. Top ten and then some randoms. Did you say you do this once every three months?
A. Yes, we may have been doing it once every month back then. I know it changed later on. I'm not sure when it changed and we decided to do it in a cycle on three-monthly.
Q. Okay, you have an aged debtor thing in front of you, right. Do you make the decisions as to which ones are the random ones you pick or does someone else make that decision?
A. I make that decision.
Q. You make that decision. You have an aged debtor in front of you. Presumably that does not have a telephone number on it, does it?
A. Yes.
Q. It does have a telephone number?
A. Quite often. If it doesn't then we have a contact list of contact names, telephone numbers of all of the debtors.
Q. So the job is quite simple. You have the aged debtor list in front of you, you pick the top ten, you pick five randoms, you have the telephone number there, you punch in the number to one of them and you ring them up?
A. Yes.
Q. What do you say when you ring them up?
A. "Good afternoon, good morning, [can I] speak to your accounts payable". When we get through to there we would say, "Just calling up on behalf of your supplier, QCFS. We are doing some verifications on some invoices. Can you confirm to me if you have received -" go down the list of invoices. With each one they normally say yes, no, it is in dispute, never heard of this one, et cetera, and then we would keep a record of all of that on the spreadsheet on the system.
Q. With each customer you ring you would ask them about every invoice that was outstanding would you?
A. Yes, unless – yes.
Q. You would record, yes, no, in dispute, never heard of it or something like that?
A. Yes, whatever their response is to me asking if they've received the invoice.
Q. If they said yes, presumably that was good news?
A. Yes.
Q. If they have said no, what would you do?
A. They may have asked for copies. If they hadn't heard of it before or they hadn't – they'd perhaps received it but hadn't received the tools, whatever they would say to me I would either go back to Richard and ask for copies of the invoices or ask him to provide a credit note. You know, sometimes they'd say they needed a credit note to be assigned against that invoice, so I would either go back to Richard or it would be a yes on the spreadsheet.
Q. So you are referring by Richard to Mr. Magson?
A. Yes, sorry.
Q. What you are saying is if you got a yes, everything was fine. If you got any of the others, you would go back to Richard Magson, right?
A. Yes.
Q. You would say to him, "I need a copy of the invoice" or you raise the credit note or problem or whatever, yes?
A. Yes.
Q. Presumably that would not be the end of your job because you would presumably follow that up?
A. Yes.
Q. You would expect to receive whatever you have asked for?
A. Yes."
"Bizarrely in October 2009 and November 2009 we were able to verify the invoices on Thermotec Plastics Ltd. and Really Useful Products Ltd. On Thermotec, 2 invoices totalling £56,771.66 were originally assigned by the client on the customer McLaren Automotive. They were the end user of the product and were buying from Thermotec Plastics Ltd. who had asked QCFS Ltd. to quote for the making of the tool. QCFS Ltd. raised the invoices (1st of 3 staged invoices) in the hope of getting the order, but they didn't win the order and the invoices were fresh air. The client then moved the invoices in November 2009 from the McLaren Automotive account to the Thermotec Plastics Ltd. account but this was not picked up. We were able to verify the invoices in October 2009 with James Elliott at McLaren and the only reason could have been that they were getting the product via Thermotec Plastics Ltd. and therefore assumed our invoices related to this. On Really Useful Products Ltd. we verified invoices that were subsequently found to be fresh air in November 2009. The only explanation that can be provided is that the customer paid in instalments of £10,500 due to cash flow pressure which the client was not always allocating correctly and that this caused the invoices to be verified in error. I have subsequently seen correspondence from the customer to the client disputing these invoices at this time."
"Q. … Do you actually recall doing this verification exercise with McLaren?
A. No, I don't remember it.
Q. But you have no reason to suppose you did not do it, have you?
A. No.
Q. So it looks like you went through the procedure which you described with McLaren in relation to this, does it not?
A. I don't know. It was a long time ago, I don't remember each individual call I made.
Q. But you have no reason to suppose that you would not have done the exercise that you described to my Lord, in the context of the telephone conversation with McLaren, would you?
A. No."
"Q. If you go back to page 116, you will see that he was not just referring to a verification exercise having been carried out with McLaren. He also referred to a verification exercise having been successfully carried out with RUP as well, does he not?
A. Whereabouts are you looking, I'm sorry.
Q. The same paragraph we were looking at. It starts with the word "bizarrely". Do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. It says:
"We were able to verify the invoices on Really Useful Products Limited."
Do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know if it was you who carried out this exercise in relation to Really Useful Products?
A. I don't remember.
Q. You do not remember. The only place we would get that answer from is the spreadsheet; is that correct?
A. I would imagine. I don't know.
Q. Can you think of any other place one would get that information?
A. Not off the top of my head, no.
Q. The spreadsheet, if it was completed properly would record who had in fact done it, would it not?
A. We put our initials at the end of each note so that we know who's done what.
Q. You said to me that when you made a call in relation to a customer, one would go through all the invoices that were outstanding from that customer and check them all as at the date of the call, correct?
A. Yes.
Q. It would look like a fair assumption that whoever did do this verification exercise in November 2009 in relation to RUP would have succeeded [in] verifying any invoices which were outstanding from RUP as at that date. Is that a yes?
A. Yes.
…
Q. So part of that verification exercise, if you just look at the date column here –
A. Okay.
Q. – on the basis of what you are saying would have included, if you look at Really Useful Products, 14 September 2009; do you see that one?
A. Yes.
Q. 15 September 2009; do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. And 29 October 2009; do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. What I am going to suggest to you is that the verification exercise in relation to RUP looks like it drew a positive result in relation to those three invoices as well.
Do you agree?
A. Yes."
"Q. Really Useful Products.
A. Okay.
Q. Do you remember them as being one of the top three debtors?
A. I don't know as top three but I know the name as being a big debtor.
Q. They probably would always will be in the group of ten, would they not?
A. I don't remember.
Q. They are one of QCFS's biggest customers?
A. I guess they were then, yes.
Q. Would you accept they were likely to have been in the top ten every time?
A. Yes.
Q. So if you carried out the verification process on a monthly basis there is going to be a monthly phone call to RUP?
A. Yes.
Q. If you look at the schedule and you will see six boxes down there is one numbered 2669?
A. Sorry, I thought we were on 19 of the schedule. What page are you on?
Q. It is the page before. Six boxes down, Really Useful Products –
A. Yes.
Q. – 2669 and you will see the date there is 28 February.
A. Yes.
Q. It is also for nearly £20,000. Do you think that's likely to have been verified with RUP?
A. I would imagine so, yes.
Q. If you go to the next one down RUP [2671], 12 March 2010, £18,249; another large sum, is it not?
A. It is yes.
Q. Do you think that is likely to have been verified with RUP?
A. It is likely."
"Q. So its pretty likely that someone is going to have sought to verify this invoice with Birkby's, is it not?
A. Yes.
Q. If they did not get a positive response and they got a "I do not know what this is about; this has nothing to do with us", what would have been the response to that?
A. I would have contacted Richard, possibly. If they'd come back to me and said that they'd never heard of this invoice or seen this invoice, I'm pretty sure I would have spoken to or tried to speak to Richard about it."
"Q. If you go over the page to page 19, you will see there is one, Hallam Casting, at the top of the page, 11 March 2010, 2670. Do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. £23,000: a pretty large sum, is it not?
A. It is, yes.
Q. Likely to have been verified with Hallam Casting?
A. I would imagine so, yes.
Q. If that is likely to have been verified with Hallam Casting if you go back to the previous page, you will see there is another one to Hallam Casting. It is a smaller sum. It is only £7.093 but it is still outstanding, even now apparently.
A. Okay.
Q. You will see Hallam Casting. If a call was made to Hallam Casting in relation to the invoice we have just looked about they would have taken the opportunity to ask about this invoice as well, would they not?
A. Quite possibly.
Q. It is quite likely, is it not?
A. Quite possibly, yes."
The Thermotec Invoices
"25/3 spoke to Elina she confirmed that as far as she is aware she owes nothing, almost had a fit when I mentioned the amount o/s said I would forward copies."
"Please can you raise some quotes for McLaren for me? I've attached the quote and obviously need it on Esdale's paperwork. Do need quotes for parts along with the tools. Please give me a call if anything isn't clear – [he set out his mobile telephone number]
Perhaps you could email them to me and I can forward them onto my contact?"
"Yes it did! I've got a meeting set up for next Wednesday AM at McLaren. They also want to talk to me about more tooling! Tried to call you but your phone doesn't connect!"
"For your information, this has been agreed along with the bentley job also, the data will be next week for maclaren, bentley this week, we need to sit down to manage workloads with Mathew attendance tomorrow afternoon.
…
We have been asked to look at 4 other tools for maclaren next week thus we need to firm capacities tomorrow between us all."
"To manufacture 1 off tool to produce part DXM-0038679-001-001
Single cavity aluminium mould tool
Single hot feed
Multi movers for side holes
Tool price £69,900.00
Tool price to include
Moldflow analysis
Ureol checking fixtures
PPAP level 3"
"The mclaren order will commence next week, I will send across the sizes as soon as we know next week, this will be a back to back deal with Thermatec [sic] on the basis of Mclaren wanting track records with ourselves for the future, I will send those other documents over sometime later today."
"135. From whom the payment [for the McLaren Tools order] was to come from was not straight forward given the impending demise of Innov8es and at this stage another company, Thermotec, has become involved. Thermotec were a customer of Innov8es who supplied engineered solutions in vacuum forming and polyurethane mouldings. They were looking to build a relationship with McLaren and therefore approached McLaren to offer to do the moulding in place of Innov8es using the tools which QCFS were manufacturing.
136. Originally the plan was that QCFS would contract with McLaren and sub-contract the moulding work to Thermotec. That was to what I referred when I said that the orders would be a "back to back deal" with Thermotec in my email dated 14 October 2009 … However, it was subsequently agreed that Thermotec would contract with McLaren and sub contract to us. I was happy to move the order across to Thermotec in order to confirm payment. I told Jill Brown at QCFS this in an email dated 16 October 2009 …
137. On the same day, QCFS received an email from Ms Stainer of BIDL … asking for McLaren's company registration number as part of her verification process in respect of the order. This email showed a debt of £56,771.67 payable by McLaren. The fact that BIDL were seeking to verify debts did not mean that BIDL had necessarily funded against them – BIDL's verification procedures covered all debts notified to BIDL, whether or not they were funded.
138. On around 18 October 2009 QCFS issued two work orders (one addressed to McLaren and one to Thermotec). …These are not dated but would have been issued around 8 weeks before the delivery date, which was stated on each order to be 18 December 2009.
139. We were in the midst of the manufacture of these two McLaren tools, as shown by an email from Mr. Turner of Futurcel to me dated 21 October 2009 when he confirmed that the McLaren tools would be used for standard "ABS" plastic and therefore special materials were not needed to trial the tools …
140. At the end of October 2009 Innov8es ceased trading. The failure of Innov8es was not necessarily an issue because McLaren was the ultimate purchaser. However, also at this stage there was a delay in the production of the car at McLaren's end. As a result, the production of the tools at QCFS was placed on hold as we could not get the GAs signed off by McLaren or Thermotec.
141. However, the customer was responsible for the two stage one invoices for each tool already issued. The Claimant has disclosed the two invoices described in paragraph 129 above, addressed to Thermotec and dated 29 December 2010. I assume that these were issued upon receipt by QCFS of a job number from Thermotec (these would not have been re-assigned to BIDL – the original assignment would have taken place in September 2009 as described above and this was just a question of changing the customer identify [sic]). Relevant emails are likely to be on the job files, which as explained above, I do not have access to.
142. The delay in the manufacture of the McLaren car continued into spring 2011. I understood from Mr. Turner at Futurcel that production was due to re-commence in April, but in the intervening period QCFS ceased to trade."
"On Monday we need to first stages on Monday when Matthew advises of thermatec [sic] order number, this will then need to be faxed and emailed across as per the previous, under no circumstances send prior to order number as this will be a wasted process as order number required for payment."
"Further to our previous conversations, I can confirm that we have indeed had dealings with Esdales but nothing like the amounts in question. I attach a screen dump of their ledger with us. Also attached is an email that our Business Director Dave Rose sent to McLaren which basically confirms cheaper prices then [sic] Esdales from another supplier. We were never awarded the business for this job but would not have bought the tooling from Esdales if we had been successful as they were £14K cheaper elsewhere."
"Reference my previous correspondence, I can confirm the revised prices from our recommended supplier. The stipulation is that a minimum qty of 500 parts of each must be ordered (at this price).
They will honour the tooling prices originally received from Esdales, but will need to discuss slight modifications to the strengthening ribs due to undercuts in relation to the mould line of draw. We will require stage payments for tooling. The moulding tooling will be available to supply first off (T1) parts at 8 working weeks from receipt of CAD. Obviously we need to add on time for flock coating, and have an understanding of the buy-off criteria.
The prices (subject to VAT) are as follows:-
Front panel luggage bin
Tooling £64,000, parts £37.91 (flocked and delivered to Woking)
Rear panel luggage bin
Tooling £69,000, parts £38.60 (flocked and delivered to Woking)
I hope that this is acceptable to you, and we await your next instructions."
"The fact that there was no valid and enforceable obligation is shown by the following matters: [there were eight, but for present purposes the important one is the first]
(1) Stage 1 invoices are not valid if orders were not placed and materials were not ordered. There is no evidence that an order in respect of either tool was ever placed with QCFS, and, therefore, there was no entitlement to raise stage 1 invoices."
The Early RUP Invoices and the Late RUP Invoices
"Thank you for your letter, we were very surprised to receive this. The Invoices you are detailing were pre invoiced by QCFS, work was never commenced and as such nothing was delivered.
Please confirm these have been cancelled and the matter is now fully closed.
The attached email [an exchange between Mr. John Carpenter of Tenon, on behalf of the Administrators, and Mr. Mike Pickles of RUP in May 2010] details the whole fiasco we had dealing with the Administrators, the email of the 24th May confirms that a full and final settlement was reached, also included in this email is the paperwork trail of the payment.
Your query relates to 64L box which was a bogus transaction which is indicative of why the company went into administration.
If you wish to take this further please contact the administrators but we consider this matter closed."
"In terms of what was on the Bibby ledger this only leaves the invoices relating to the 0.7 litre lid tooling which had been raised prior to completion of the tooling. I've let Bibby know your thoughts on this matter and we can pick up on this when we discuss the digital drawings later on."
"From establishment of the Esdale Agreement in 2007 through to 2009, funding was provided by BIDL upon first stage (materials), second stage (delivery) and third stage (sampling) submitted to RUP. These invoices were paid by RUP's asset financier when the tool was complete, i.e. delivered and sampled. BIDL was fully aware of this and RUP's financiers made payment in respect of invoices to BIDL directly. However, modification and repair work was paid directly to BIDL by RUP."
"Please see enclosed, with the new change of terms for RUP with payment for new work as per the schedule 45 days from delivery in preference to the previous 120 days. This should also help the business progression and I got agreed through the meetings two weeks ago with the customer."
"We are looking at sourcing a new 64 litre tools [sic] – one for USA and one for UK – Delivery December 2009.
There is one massive change and that is that I want to change the tooling totally into split at the corners and moving away from cylinders.
This is really the traditional way of making containers.
I really want one single design and want USA to come up with this.
Richard to start this happening we need the 3D model of the design to USA. Please liaise with USA on this.
Once the design is approved then my proposal is that A1 [Mr. Arciniegas's company] make a tool and Esdale make the European tool.
Your thoughts please?"
"Payment Terms
Materials to be invoiced on delivery to QCFS Limited and paid within 120 days from receipt by QCFS Limited. Residual balance to be paid within 90 days or 45 days from satisfactory sampling, whichever is the sooner."
"Richard I have spoken to Mike earlier and he would like to proceed with the 64L Box tooled in the same design as 48L Box. 14 week lead time."
"When do you envisage having 64L Box GA [General Assemby drawing] and 48L XL Lid Component for approval?"
"The GA is done awaiting DE [David Eastwood] and Mark Maclean to discuss and approval received."
"Please could someone let me know as soon as this is OK to order. Then I can inform Crusteel."
"I have met with Mike and Kevin and discussed the 64L Box Model. Regarding the 2.9mm wall thickness on the sides Mike would like this to be 2.3mm. Is there any reason that we cannot have this?
Mike is of the opinion that if the tool polishing is perfect and there are no undercuts then we will not need the extra wall thickness. Can we revert back to 2.9mm if this does not work?
If you are happy [with] this please can you change this model and send to Alfonso [Mr. Arciniegas]."
"Mike in response to this e-mail as you know all the 64L box tools have long sidewalls of 2.9mm.
These are two separate issues that are now being ignored. We are happy to make the sidewalls 2.3mm although due to the extent of the modelling there will be additional cost. There is an additional cost of remodelling the component £500, should you then wish to alter the tool after manufacture to accommodate the 2.9mm wall section there would be a modification cost of £3300 to re-cut the cavity sidewalls, polishing and programming. In the case where there is a 'hanger' in the tool to carry the folders it is preferable to take metal from core.
I am trying to save cost here Mike as I think that going to the 2.3mm wall section may not be the thing to do as it was problematic."
"All is quiet on the Esdale front, a bit confused by some of the recent invoices.
Please email me a statement of account … please ASAP."
"I am currently reconciling the account and then Mike will approve payment for mods.
I require credit notes for 64L Tool as work [h]as not yet commenced (the invoices are Sept/Oct which cannot be correct) … please advise when I can expect them."
"The minor credits will be raised and then applied accordingly against the invoices and then re raised when applicable against the work done. These will be re raised in accordance with the order and terms, on the later delivery of product and materials.
With regards to materials, I believe the materials were on hold for significant period of time, but my understanding is that all documentation for manufacture is now approved as per discussions with mark [sic], and work commencing Monday on these goods.
We have no ability to cancel goods once ordered from steel suppliers hence the original raising of paperwork.
I would be grateful if payment will subsequently be released, thanks again for your continued support and business."
"I have just had a discussion with Mike and he has requested we re-confirm our terms of purchase to you which have been established over many years of trade.
Our payment terms are 45 days from approval of tool – so no payment until we have approved mouldings.
There are currently two tools pending.
Please advise the status of each tool and revised delivery dates, so we can decide if your proposal for delivery are [sic] acceptable."
"The 0.7 litre box is complete the manifold has been purchased today and will be fitted next week. The 64 Litre box we have been awaiting confirmation to proceed which we received 1 week ago, and the materials are finally being delivered early next week with a 8 week manufacturing time. These were ordered in late October and ready for delivery mid November, but I understand approval of the tool had not been gained at this stage and finally in the last few weeks approved. Naturally if you wish ourselves not to proceed with this tool, the material value will be billed and you can collect yourselves on this basis and cancellation of this project."
"Invoices 2669 and 2671 appear to be duplicates. I recall being told by Ian Marsden and Tony Carter in QCFS's sales team with confirmation from Tony Carter [sic] in accounts that 2669, the first slightly larger invoice, had been raised in error with the wrong amount, and that accordingly a credit note was applied to the facility with BIDL to reduce it back down to the correct amount. The Invoice was for the steel plates for the tool. The last invoice numbered 2673 was for a final item ordered."
"Q. Invoice 2669, if you go to paragraphs 31 and 32 of your witness statement you say that you cannot say when this was notified, correct?
A. Yes that is correct.
Q. Which means that you cannot say when this was notified, correct?
A. I cannot say when, no.
Q. But what we do know is that it cannot have been assigned to Bibby between 28 February and 11 March 2010, can it?
A. I haven't looked into that so I don't know.
Q. Well –
A. Why not?
Q. If you go to –
A. No, you are correct.
Q. Yes?
A. You are correct.
Q. That's correct?
A. Yes, yes, there isn't any invoice for that value.
Q. Indeed the earliest it could have assigned, and we don't know if this happened at all, is 17 March, correct?
A. Presuming it wasn't before 28 Feb, yes..
Q. I am sorry?
A. Presuming it wasn't before 28 Feb, yes.
Q. You say that the invoice was actually assigned on either 28 February or 11 March. That doesn't look right either, does it?
A. No. I believe that is what Andy had put in his. I am not entirely sure.
Q. Sorry?
A. No, that is the date of the invoice.
Q. Okay. Invoice 2671, you say you uploaded that on 12 March. You say that at paragraph 33, don't you?
A. Yes.
Q. But the amount isn't actually the same, is it? It's out by a penny?
A. 1p, yes.
Q. Can you tell me how you know it wasn't uploaded on 17 March?
A. Again the same reason, because he needed the money.
Q. So you can't tell me it wasn't uploaded on 17 March, can you?
A. I don't believe it was."
The Hallam Castings Invoices
"Design and manufacture 4 imps to fit 1 bolster
Single impressions
P20 imps Nitrided
Pin ejection
Commercial finish
Bolsters etc supplied by Hallam"
"The components we looked at yesterday, all to go in one common bolster I would be looking at an 8/9 week delivery.
As there is only about 4 ½ weeks left this year delivery would probably be the last week in January.
At the £18500 price.
We could bring it forward by working premium time this would put the price up to £20000.
Have you got the order to place now and a suitable bolster set for them to fit in because to hit any of the dates we are going to have to move fast.
Let me know your thoughts."
"The official quote will be with you this afternoon.
We need order cover and first third deposit before we commence with the tooling as agreed with Richard."
"As far as I am aware the agreement with Richard was GBP18,500. I think this price needs to be accepted by you guys to proceed further."
"I have agreed to proceed with this on this occasion at this price, but original agreement was this was the only costs the company could afford. Rob is stating that it will cost the additional funds for the sampling, product, isir [sic] and also work needed.
This is an eight week manufacturing and unless payment is in to our account cleared funds by Thursday this week to ourselves, we have limited options for steel supplies as 5 days delivery and drawing needed first, as many shut down the middle of next week for deliveries for the xmas [sic] period. They have deliberately lead [sic] this on for ten days now, as such the delivery is as specified and colin [sic] was in agreement with this earlier, which is contrary to the discussion I just had with Rob, about this having to be a January delivery … the manufacturing time is the manufacturing time."
"16/3 amount disputed EE 8/4 Robert Pickersgill has confirmed that this inv has been paid via cheque, he is coming back to me on 9/4 via email to let me know what date this has been cashed EE "
"To design and manufacture 6 off 1 impression die cast tooling.
To manufacture street lighting fittings as per your cad."
"16/3 not received yet EE 25/3 Richard told Carrie on the 16/3 that she [sic] wanted a statement sent and these invoices sent through Richard has not done this and called Carrie in a worry that she hadn't received them before, told Martin and disputed in mean time EE 8/4 received call from Robert Pickerskill he is very concerned, doesnt [sic] know anything about this invoice or what it could be for, thinks Richard has created this on the sly, he is now concerned that he will not receive the tools he is awaiting EE 13/4 AT [Mr. Thompson] has confirmed admin[istrator]s say pre invoiced EE"
"I don't recall using the term "on the sly" … and this is not a phrase that I have ever used; maybe the chap at Tenon paraphrased. The facts as they seem to us are that invoices for tooling for which no order had been placed and no work done were generated into the QCFS system and presumably used as a basis for drawing down cash."
"Further to out [sic] telephone conversation this morning I set out below our summary of the amounts due for tooling supplied by the above company.
Invoice no 2111 £3,459, I confirm that we have no written guaranteed order from our customer for 10,000 components. This amount is only payable when 10,000 components have been produced from the tool, and so far less than 3.000 have been supplied.
Invoice nos 2394, 2477, 2614 and 2636 are invoices which we appear to be obliged to pay, totalling £2,992.50 plus, not on the Bibby ledger, invoice 2691 for £740.25 total £3,732.75. We need a copy of this invoice please.
Invoice 2585 £2,115 is disputed on the grounds that the inserts are not fit for purpose. This is being confirmed by an independent test by Mason Pinder toolmakers today (instruction letter attached).
There is a total of £2,108.01 in allocated payments from us on the Bibby ledger.
We have paid £3,231.25 on 9th March which is not on the Bibby ledger.
This therefore reveals a net credit position for us of £3,732.75 less £6,339.26 being £1,606.21."
"Thank you for your letter of 23rd April confirming an outstanding balance of £3,951.50 in respect of amounts owing to QCFS. I enclose our cheque for £501.50 herewith, and confirm that the balance owing, £3,450, will be transferred by BACS to your Barclays account [the number of which was set out] on or before 30th June 2010."
Birkby Invoice 25540
"TOOL NO. 12958
Design & manufacture 1 only – 1 + 1 imp. Injection mould tool to produce the – Deck Side Trim Upper. 64733/64734.
Impression materials High Hard P20 & P20.
Impressions cut directly into above plates, Other materials EN8, Side cores operated by angle pins.
Up & aways, Pin & sleeve ejection, Hydraulic ejection, 3 drop hotrunner [sic] feeding edge gates.
Cavity fine polish, Core standard polish.
Texture prep & sampling included in price.
Texture not included in price.
All as per your tool spec.
Original Terms – 80% Due January 2010, 10% Due February 2010, 10% Due March 2010.
Confirmation 12/01/10 MC/RM
Exchange rate 1.1 Euro to £1 Sterling as per the agreed meeting of the 12th January 2010.
Payment dates 25,000 Euros by wk ending 16th January 2010, 25000 Euros by wk ending 24th January on account payment to be made against this specific project including Deck Side Trim Upper and Access Panel total 132,000 Euros plus Vat, and linked accordingly and invoice until conclusion of the SDS score.
Residual Balance in line with terms, subject to relevant approvals, part payments on account will apply with regards to the above noted linkage clause.
No mgmt [management] charges applicable.
Formal withdrawal of letter issued 11/01/10 to M Spence to apply
Separate invoice for Discrepancy in tooling value between both orders to be discussed between RM/MF to the value of 9835 euros plus VAT."
"Please find enclosed your invoice ref. 25540, returned as I do not recognise the value of 9835 euros. Please note that this invoice has not been booked in to our system by the finance department. If you want to re-present it, please provide me with an explanation of the build up of the value. I am contactable on [telephone number given] if you wish to discuss."
"193. In May 2009 an agreement was reached with Birkby's Plastics Limited ("Birkby's") for the provision of two tools for Borgers (the end user to be Toyota). The tools were to be designed and manufactured by QCFS.
194. As well as the cost of the tools themselves, an additional £10,105 was to be paid by Birkby's on the larger tool if the tool was produced by a certain date, referred to by us as "premium working time", and another £9,844.70 of premium working time was payable on the other smaller tool.
195. From September to December 2009, the tools were manufactured, delivered and sampled. The smaller tool was delivered on time and sampled successfully and an invoice for £9,844.70 in respect of the premium working time was raised and paid some time in January 2010.
196. The larger tool was also delivered on time. However, Birkby's encountered issues on sampling which led to modifications being required. We were due to be paid 80% of the price of the tools themselves in January 2010. However, on 7 January 2010 Lee Murgatroyd of Birkby's informed me that he could not afford to pay QCFS until they were paid by their customer.
197. As a result I emailed Mr. Murgatroyd on 7 January 2010 stating that "as it stands now we are working on the tool [i.e. sampling and modifications on the larger tool] but after Friday (8 January 2010) if no conclusion has been arranged we have been instructed to stop work and do other tools which we will be getting paid for" …
198. A meeting was arranged with the customer for 9 January 2010 to discuss the situation. I attended and informed Mr. Ellison of what was happening by telephone. The agreement reached in the meeting was recorded in a note at (page 608). This noted that the total price for both tools (excluding premium working time) was E132,000 plus VAT, based on an exchange rate of £1 = E1.1. The price therefore equated to £141,000 (including VAT). They required us to credit all the various invoices raised so far, and reissue as two invoices, numbered 12959 and 12958, one for each tool. It was agreed at the meeting that Birkby's would pay the existing invoice for the premium working time on the smaller tool, but that no premium working time charge would be applied as regards the larger tool. I stepped out of the meeting to phone Mr. Ellison who confirmed he was happy for me to agree to this and also payment terms over the course of January."
The Taylor Invoices
"Radiator Cover RH
Single impression Alumec 89 (or agreed equivalent) structural foam injection moulding tool with full temperature control and ejection systems. Tool to be manufactured in accordance with TEP Tool Spec Sheet AO5, any deviations must be agreed by TEP. Delivery of the mould and any subsequent collection/redilivery [sic] (as necessary) to be made by Esdales. Payment terms: 1/3 payable on receipt of invoice, balance on approval and receipt of payment from TEP customer."
"Following a conversation this morning between Ian Taylor and Tony Carter please use this e-mail as authority to proceed with ordering material & tool design for the Caterpillar Radiator top and Rad LH 7 RH [word illegible].
Your quotation state [sic] a lead time of 8-10 weeks for each tool, commencing Week 13 we would require a tool completion no later than week commencing 23 7th June.
Also Tony has quoted £650 for additional work to the Rad top, would you please forward this quotation in writing or e-mail to myself, Ian Taylor & Ian Ashworth all @ tep.
Please confirm you are happy with this, I look forward to hearing from you."
Re-dating of Invoices
Month | Current account balance (£) |
November 2009 | 454,445.01 |
December 2009 | 453,956.89 |
January 2010 | 453,310.88 |
February 2010 | 454,241.74 |
March 2010 | 454,247.85 |
April 2010 | 449,817.00 |
Date | Net assigned debt (£) |
15.12.09 | 575,570.23 |
16.12.09 | 575,130.93 |
17.12.09 | 575,130.93 |
18.12.09 | 643,035.69 |
21.12.09 | 643,035.69 |
22.12.09 | 610,215.08 |
24.12.09 | 570,199.20 |
29.12.09 | 567,199.20 |
30.12.09 | 567,199.20 |
31.12.09 | 567,199.20 |
04.01.10 | 547,109.85 |
05.01.10 | 529,915.68 |
06.01.10 | 539,365.13 |
07.01.10 | 559,714.78 |
08.01.10 | 559,714.78 |
11.01.10 | 559,714.78 |
12.01.10 | 559,714.78 |
13.01.10 | 571,255.48 |
14.01.10 | 571,255.48 |
15.01.10 | 549,683.87 |
18.01.10 | 555,080.08 |
19.01.10 | 555,080.08 |
20.01.10 | 522,429.92 |
21.01.10 | 531,635.42 |
22.01.10 | 547,437.71 |
25.01.10 | 535,535.23 |
26.01.10 | 535,535.23 |
27.01.10 | 535,535.23 |
28.01.10 | 535,535.23 |
29.01.10 | 538,479.70 |
01.02.10 | 550,112.20 |
02.02.10 | 550,112.20 |
03.02.10 | 550,377.51 |
04.02.10 | 549,682.91 |
05.02.10 | 563,331.33 |
08.02.10 | 563,331.33 |
09.02.10 | 563,331.33 |
10.02.10 | 581,375.08 |
11.02.10 | 549,495.08 |
12.02.10 | 549,495.08 |
The Credit Notes
"190. In late February the sampling process and related work in relation to the tool we had made for HP [Hallam Plastics] was completed, although HP also wanted some additional modifications to the product outside the original spec (at all times QCFS manufactured to the GAs). HP were concerned about QCFS's solvency and therefore did not want to pay cash to QCFS for the additional modifications. HP therefore suggested that they paid one of QCFS's other suppliers, a Canadian company which had provided a component for HP's tool and to which QCFS still owed money. This assisted HP because they were concerned that if QCFS failed, the Canadian supplier would demand payment from HP.
191. I recollect that I agreed to this in order to assist HP and because this did not affect QCFS's balance sheet, which would benefit from having the debt to the Canadian company cancelled. We therefore raised an invoice to HP for £6,974.80 in respect of the modifications together with a credit note to HP for the same amount. A copy of the credit note is at page 603. Neither the invoice nor the credit note were submitted to BIDL."
"Telephoned Mick Owens to discuss outstanding balance owing on ledger and the content of his emails dated 19th April 2010 and 16th April 2010.
Mick confirmed that, despite his customer (Terraplus) refusing to make payment of the final two instalments to Hallam Plastics Limited (see email of 15 April 2010), he is still in a position to settle the balance owing to QCFS Limited as soon as we have agreed amount owing.
He sees the issue with Terraplus as a separate issue and will contact them following settlement with QCFS Limited.
His position remains that he is offering a full and final settlement of £17,815.92.
I have requested copy of credit note 2639 (£6,974.80) along with invoices and supporting paperwork relating to the contra (£15,789.85). Mick will fax/email over this afternoon."
"this and 2586 should both have credit notes nothing is due to be paid, requested a copy anyway and she says she has lots more invoices there that we don't appear to have on our system."
The events of 27 August 2008 – further discussion and conclusions
"d. There was a communication in writing about base rate, but this did not say that the Invoice Discounting Agreement required re-execution or that it had not been agreed notwithstanding that that [sic] QCFS had been operating its agreement with C for a period of 3 months:"
"f. On 3 February 2009, when D1 says that he received the invoice discounting agreement without the changes marked on it, there ensues a particularly bizarre part of the story of D1. On his story, D1 still had a copy of the invoice discounting agreement signed by him, so that he was able to demonstrate that the amendments were on the document, and that it was wholly wrong of BIDL to provide a document which did not have these amendments. On his case, one would have expected a long letter or a detailed email from D1.
g. In fact, on his case, at no time did he point to the difference between the retained invoice discounting agreement and the one sent by BIDL on 3 February 2008 [sic]. On 4 February 2009, he wrote an email about a meeting [Mr. Freedman then quoted the words set out in the preceding paragraph].
h. If there had been a difference between that which was amended on the contractual documentation in August 2007 [sic] and the documentation said to have been provided to him in February 2009, then D1, now having both documents, would undoubtedly have shown the contradiction by contrasting expressly the documents.
i. Instead of referring to differences between different versions of the contractual documentation, the difference identified is between the markings on the offer letter and the contractual documentation sent on 3 February 2009. This accords with the letters of D1 of 25 May 2010 and thereafter to the extent that the failure was to record the matters in the offer letter rather than discrepancies between two versions of the contractual documentation. This is yet further evidence of the fact that the story about amendments and initialling on the contractual documentation is one of recent invention."
"The suggestion that on 24 February 2009 D1 delivered to BIDL various documents including the marked and initialled Invoice Discounting Agreement and Saracen Corporate Guarantee is simply fantastic."
"An instrument is validly executed as a deed by an individual if, and only if –
(a) it is signed -
(i) by him in the presence of a witness who attests the signature; …
(b) it is delivered as a deed by him or a person authorised to do so on his behalf."
"(1) An instrument is validly executed by a corporation aggregate as a deed for the purposes of section 1(2)(b) of the Law of Property (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1989, if and only if –
(a) it is duly executed by the corporation, and
(b) it is delivered as a deed."
"For if, upon delivery, the words spoken by the obligor purport that it shall not be his deed, it is clear that it is not: as where one causeth an obligation to be written and sealed in my name, and brings it unto me, and prays that I would deliver it as my deed, and I say, "Do you such a thing, and take it as my deed, otherwise not;" it is clear, that it is not my deed until the thing be performed. So if the obligor saith, "Take it to you, I will not deliver it as my deed;" it is not his deed. Wherefore in the principal case, when the obligation is delivered as an escrow, by express words, it is not possible that it should be his deed, for the words are not sufficient to make it so until the condition be performed."
"You cannot deliver the deed to the grantee himself, it is said, because that would be inconsistent with its preserving the character of an escrow. But if upon the whole of the transaction it be clear that the delivery was not intended to be a delivery to the grantee at that time, but that it was to be something different, then you must not give effect to the delivery as being a complete delivery, that not being the intent of the persons who executed the instrument."
Assignment and Funding
Month | Amount drawn down (£) |
September 2009 | 131,900.00 |
October 2009 | 159,027.00 |
November 2009 | 96,270.10 |
December 2009 | 131,100.00 |
January 2010 | 137,800.00 |
February 2010 | 101,000.00 |
March 2010 | 88,710.00 |
Whether Bibby FS could recover substantial damages pursuant to the Guarantees and for breaches of the Warranties
The evidential value of certificates
"I certify this is the balance on the account.
Signed [signature]
PETER FLYNN
DIRECTOR
Dated this 26th May 2011"
"Pursuant to Condition 6.16 of the Agreement, Bibby certifies that the sum due as at 11 July 2011 from QCFS under the Agreement is £350,204.74.
Pursuant to Clause 9 of the Guarantees, the Security Trustee, Bibby Financial Services Limited certifies that the sum due as at 11 July 2011 from Mr. Richard Magson and Mr. Robert Stuart Franklin Scott in respect of Secured Obligations stands at £25,000 each, being the financial limit of each Guarantee, plus interest at 7.5% from the date of demand to 11 July 2011."
Conclusion