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Bruce's Creditors v Johnston's Heirs and Representatives. [1697] Mor 4414 (2 December 1697)
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[1697] Mor 4414
Bruce's Creditors v. Johnston's Heirs and Representatives
Date: 2 December 1697 Case No. No 3.
A creditor who debars others, and is thereby subjected to account for his intromissions by a rental, must state the price of the victual at the fiars, reserving to the creditors to prove that he got a higher price.
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In a count and reckoning between Drummond of Riccarton and other creditors of Bruce of Newton, against the Heirs and Representatives of Johnston of Polton, and Mr Edward Wright advocate; Philiphaugh reported these two points. 1mo, Polton and Wright having preferable rights, partly voluntary and partly legal, upon Newton's lands, they entered to the possession; and thereby debarring posterior creditors, it is now contended for them, that they must count for the whole rental, at least show diligence for it. Answered, They can be only liable for their actual intromission; because the common debtor had a partial and promiscuous possession via facti, whereby they were debarred. Replied, Your titles being universal, you must count for the whole; but whatever he could instruct the common debtor uplifted by force, they are willing to allow and deduct, though they should either have pursued him for a riot in violent uplifting, before the Privy Council, or else should have intimated to the other creditors the interruption he made to their possession. Duplied, If there was any appearance of collusion, whereby they had suffered the common debtor to possess, then it were just to make them count for all; but that connivance was not so much as pretended. The Lords thought there was less question as to the legal diligence by adjudication, &c. for creditors entering by such rights, and debarring others, must count for the whole rent, whether uplifted by them or not, unless they condescend on some impediment via facti et juris. But the difficulty arose as to the voluntary rights; for if their getting a part of the rents make them countable for the whole, especially in the Highlands, or where debtors are stubborn and cannot easily be dispossessed, this may ruin many creditors, and make them count for rents they never got, and so unjustly extinguish their sums without payment; for which see a decision, Burnet contra Burnet, No 9. p. 3478. So if, on the other hand, preferable creditors shall be obliged to count for no more but their actual intromission, they may let the rents squander, and getting their own annualrents, let the rest be carried away by the common debtor, seeing by the priority of their right they are always secure; and so posterior creditors shall get nothing. The inconveniencies were so apparent on both sides, that the Lords resolved to hear it in presence, before they decided an abstract point of so great importance. The second article in this count and reckoning was, at what rate they were to count, whether for the highest prices any neighbours in that country got for their victual, or at the Sheriff's fiars, or at the price they sold the victual at themselves? It was alleged, That the fiars ought not to be the role here; because they are made for the common victual of the shire; whereas this lying in Bothkennar, or the Carse of Stirling, is better than the rest of the shire; and that in 1668, in the count between the Lord Elphinston and the Laird of Quarrel*, the Lords took trial of the neighbouring heritor's
* Examine General List of Names.
price, as being above the Sheriff's fiars. Answered, Such rigorous specialties ought not to be regarded; but the common standard of the fiars must be the rule. The Lords would not precisely tie the posterior creditors to accept of the fiars, but allowed them to elect either the price actually received by Polton and Wright, or the fiars, any of the two they found highest.
On the 24th June 1698, the Lords advised this point; found them liable to count for a rental, because they had put in sub-factors, who were tied to diligence, but with deduction of what the common debtor had intromitted with, otherwise one creditor might collude with the bankrupt's possession, to the prejudice of the rest.
Fol. Dic. v. 1. p. 311. Fountainhall, v. 1. p. 799.
