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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Robertson v. Hardware Supply Co (Middlesbrough) Ltd [2000] EAT 392_99_3003 (30 March 2000) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2000/392_99_3003.html Cite as: [2000] EAT 392_99_3003 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE COLLINS CBE
MR P R A JACQUES CBE
MR R N STRAKER
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MR JOHN FALKENSTEIN (of Counsel) Messrs Lauristons Solicitors 86 Borough Road Middlesbrough TS1 2PF |
For the Respondent | MR ANDREW TWINEHAM (of Counsel) Messrs Jacksons Solicitors Innovation House Yarm Road Stockton-on-Tees TS18 3TN |
JUDGE COLLINS:
"The Applicant asked Mr Honeyman what she was to do and was given work upstairs in the general office for the rest of the day.
"On 4 September 1998 Mr Honeyman told the applicant that there was not enough work for her and she was being dismissed by reason of redundancy. He gave her notice of termination of employment which expired on 30 September 1998."
"On 4 September she was told by Mr Honeyman that one of the reasons she was redundant was that she was pregnant and also because of her having time off for ante-natal care."
And she says:
"I think that I was dismissed because I was pregnant. I think that this was an automatically unfair dismissal and also sex discrimination."
We would regard it as being strange to say the least if somebody was employed for a very short period making use of the facilities of the Multi Purpose Training Centre."
So they were not blind to the arguments in favour of the Appellant that she entered permanent employment. They recite in paragraph 6 Mr Honeyman's firm recollection that notwithstanding the terms of the advertisement and notwithstanding the general expectations arising from the facilities of the Multi Purpose Training Centre, she would be appointed only as a relief for another employee. The tribunal found it unnecessary to make any finding of fact on this issue. They simply recorded their belief that both parties were giving evidence to the best of their recollection:
"We take the view that the applicant rightly or wrongly had formed the impression that her employment was to be permanent although it might conceivably change in its day to day nature and that nothing was done as might so easily have been the case to make it completely plain to her that this was regarded by Mr Honeyman as being primary maternity cover with a possibility only of future employment. The matter could have been made clear in the letter of appointment and in our view should have been."
Firstly whether that evidence was available with reasonable diligence at the hearing.
Secondly, whether it would have an important influence on the result of the case
Thirdly, whether it is apparently credible.
NOTES FOR FILE - EAT/392/99
22 October 1999
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE LINDSAY (PRESIDENT)
MR J A SCOULLER
MR P M SMITH
MR JUSTICE LINDSAY (PRESIDENT): We do not think it is right to try and cherry-pick amongst the particular grounds that so far have been attempted. We will let the whole thing go forward. It is likely that some grounds will fail, but the ones that will fail will, I think, fail fairly promptly and not take up any great time, so we do not need to sort out which goes forward and which does not.
For my part, I am impressed by the argument that Webb v EMO was not sufficiently in mind, given that it transpires that the Tribunal never quite analyses what the terms of the contract were in terms of whether it was permanent or not. It is very easy to read paragraph 14 and to conclude rather loosely that it must have been only a qualified period was offered, but the Tribunal shy away from that at the last minute. They do make it plain that "Regrettably we do not think that this was made clear to this Applicant".
The Tribunal, having said earlier that the employer had intended to follow its usual practice of appointing an employee as cover for a pregnant employee during the duration of her maternity and then making that employment permanent only if there was work for the new employee when the existing employee returned, gone on to have should have paid more attention to what was actually said and done on the day, rather than what was intended, because quite often, of course, an intention just rests in the back of the head whereas what truly needs to be analysed in contractual terms is what was actually said and done. So we think there is a point there. That is, first of all, the point that you have drawn to our attention and, secondly, is the one which we think most needs to be concentrated on.
So far as concerns an application that new evidence should be received, we do not feel able to rule on that without more information and we will give you leave to raise an application of that kind at the full hearing or if necessary at some intervening directions hearing. It is likely that the hearing will need evidence as to what steps were taken, what steps were not taken, why it was difficult or impossible to get such evidence earlier and so on. I do not think it is the sort of subject that simply can be addressed on the parties or advisers assertion. It needs to be proved. I do not know whether it is right for us to make a direction as to evidence, but what we can say is that the application is likely to fail unless it is supported by evidence. Quite what that evidence is, what it should say is, of course, a matter for the applicants. We do think that, just as you have been extremely helpful in putting their case today, it might be prudent that they should make some attempt to have professional representation when the matter returns. Perhaps you could explain to them what avenues are possible. It will not only assist them, it will assist whatever Tribunal hears the full hearing.