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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> P&O Trans European Ltd v. Initial Transport Services Ltd & Ors [2001] UKEAT 0415_01_2609 (26 September 2001) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2001/0415_01_2609.html Cite as: [2001] UKEAT 0415_01_2609, [2001] UKEAT 415_1_2609 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
MR RECORDER LANGSTAFF QC
MR A E R MANNERS
MS G MILLS
APPELLANT | |
(3) A PHILLIP (4) C WILLIAMS (5) J THOMASON |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | SIMON DEVONSHIRE (Of Counsel) Instructed by Messrs Prettys Solicitors Elm House 25 Elm Street Ipswich Suffolk IP1 3QW |
MR RECORDER LANGSTAFF QC
The objection appeal
"The objection relates to the identity of the transferee; it cannot relate to an objection to the location where the transferee intended to carry on the business, for a change of location is a matter for determination in accordance with the terms of the contract of employment."
ETO ground
"Regulation 8.2"
(that is, of the Transfer of Undertaking Regulations) states that Regulation 8(1) does not render a dismissal automatically unfair if the principal reason for the dismissal was an economic technical or organisational reason entailing changes in the workforce. The contracts of employment of Ms Hulme, Mr Thomason and Mr Williams stipulate that their normal place of work to be at Stanlow in Ellesmere Port. To be required to work at Wythenshaw therefore represented a change in their terms and conditions of employment. This change was imposed on all administrative staff. A change of workplace is not a change to the workforce. In the absence of a mobility clause it is a fundamental breach of contract. P&O had a continuing need for workers with their skills. The ETO defence therefore fails."
"In the P&O staff structure there is only one Contract Manager and Mr Phillip was interviewed for that post but was unsuccessful. In those circumstances (said the Tribunal) there was an organisational change in the workforce, P&O's need for just a single Contract Manager. Mr Phillip had no right to that job because he was a regional not a national Contract Manager."
The reason for his dismissal was therefore some other substantial reason and it was not automatically unfair.
"a change in the workforce meant a change in the overall number or the functions of the personnel employed"
That was a case in which the prime matter before the court was whether or not a reduced rate of pay in order to standardise terms and conditions between the transferred workforce and the workforce of the transferee was capable of being within the phrase "economic technical or organisational reason entailing a change in the workforce". The judgment of the court which was given by Browne-Wilkinson LJ at page 551 at C - E says this:
"In order to come within regulation 8(2) it has to be shown that that reason is an economic techincal or organisational reason entailing changes in the workforce. The reason itself i.e. to produce standardisation in pay does not involve any change either in the number or the functions of the workforce. The most that can be said is that such organisational reason may (not must) lead to the dismissal of those employees who do not fall into line coupled with the filling of the vacancies thereby caused by new employees prepared to accept the conditions of service. In our judgment that is not enough. First the phrase "economic technical or organisational reason entailing changes in the workforce" in our judgment requires that the change in the workforce is part of the economic technical or organisational reason. The employer's plan must be to achieve changes in the workforce. It must be an objective of the plan not just possible consequence of it."
"What, in our judgment, has to be looked at, is the workforce as an entity, that is to say, as a whole, separate from the individuals who make it up and it then has to be seen whether the reason in question is one which involves a change in that workforce, strength or establishment and they are satisfied that there can well be a change in a workforce if the same people are kept on but they are given entirely different jobs to do. We would regard a workforce that was engaged in a different occupation as being, for the purposes of regulation 8(2) changed if that happened as a result of an organisational change on a relevant transfer. Accordingly, we are not persuaded by Mr Giffin's first point that there must be a change in identity amongst the workforce for there to be an organisational reason entailing a change in the workforce."
"The other way of reading paragraph 24 is to interpret it as a statement of the effect of Berriman's case as including changes in function in the expression "changes in the workforce." This is a sentiment with which we have earlier expressed our agreement."
It appears therefore to us, albeit at a preliminary stage, that it can be said to be well settled that the meaning of "entailing changes in the workforce" means a change either to the number or to the function of the workforce. Although as we see from Crawford v Swinton Insurance Brokers Ltd the employee in that case had changes to her terms and conditions of employment, it was not those upon which this Tribunal focussed to decide that the Employment Tribunal was correct in concluding that the employer there could rely upon a regulation 8(2) defence. Those appear in practical terms to have been changes consequent upon her change of function rather than giving rise to any separate argument that a change to terms and conditions could constitute a change in the workforce.